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re: Alabama cops shoots man exiting his vehicle with his wallet
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:40 am to Pecker
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:40 am to Pecker
quote:No shite?
I believe the victim would have been better served to make the assumption that the officer was on edge and should have stayed in the vehicle.
Your only proof of that is that the cop shot. The driver did nothing wrong and he had no reason to assume what he did would get him shot. Do you think the driver thought he was doing anything threatening?
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:40 am to Pecker
i'm still wondering why the truck driver wasn't shot.
Evidently he deserved some lead injection as well.
Evidently he deserved some lead injection as well.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:40 am to Pecker
Ok, since you're set on being a dumb motherfricker...
At what point was the wallet pointed at the officer?
At what point was the wallet pointed at the officer?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:
Every single routine traffic stop I have been involved with includes the officer reaching for his firearm when I reach for my license and ID. For the record, I'm a middle aged white guy in a newer 4 door sedan.
I don't believe you
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
at the least, there should be a negligent injuring statute in Alabama that doesn't require "motive"
Well for the sake of this discussion, tell me what other reason makes sense for why the officer shot the man? What's the most logical reason for the officer shooting the man?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am to meauxjeaux2
No clue what the cop ordered him to do prior to video but exiting the vehicle with a wallet or anything in hand is dumb.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am to shel311
quote:he saw the truck driver walking towards the cop with his wallet and paperwork and figured "hey,it's time. Let's do this"
How could he have possibly known that BEFORE exiting the vehicle?
bam bam, pew pew pew
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Pecker doesn't know shite about the law, SFP. He's trolling and making things up as he goes.
at the least, there should be a negligent injuring statute in Alabama that doesn't require "motive"
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:42 am to Rebelgator
quote:
Ok, since you're set on being a dumb motherfricker...
At what point was the wallet pointed at the officer?
Is an officer required to wait for a gun to be pointed at him for him to determine it is a threat?
If the officer could not distinguish between a gun and a wallet, do you think he'd be able to determine whether or not the object was actually pointed at him or not?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:43 am to Pecker
quote:According to you, cops are always stressed and threatened... so they can shoot at any time no matter what the circumstance.
What's the most logical reason for the officer shooting the man?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:43 am to ell_13
quote:
Pecker doesn't know shite about the law, SFP. He's trolling and making things up as he goes.
Why did the officer shoot the man? If I know so little and am making bad arguments, why aren't you refuting them with ease?
Why did he shoot the man?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:43 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
well that's a great system
we pay the salaries of cops and must assume they're on edge and a threat to kill us for nothing
sounds reasonable
apparently the logical thing to do is assume a cop is going to shoot you over holding your wallet.
somehow, despite repeatedly admitting the cop fricked up, Pecker is finding a way to blame the guy who was shot- for exiting his vehicle with a wallet in his hand, after a fender bender.
Some people just can't see the forest for the trees. He is caught up in semantics and specifics, when he should be using common sense- it's cold and wet, dude is in car. Cops arrive, dude needs to exit vehicle. Cop will need ID, so dude has his wallet in his hand. Gets shot over attempting to be proactive, and have his ID ready.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:43 am to Pecker
quote:Don't you just have to proof that his belief was not reasonable?
For it to be a crime you would need to prove that he did not feel threatened and shot the victim for reasons not related to his feeling threatened. A motive would have to be established.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:44 am to Pecker
His goddamn hand were up.
I've been on plenty of scenes with armed parties. I've only shot once.
I've been on plenty of scenes with armed parties. I've only shot once.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:44 am to Pecker
quote:I've refuted all of your retardness. The cop argued that he reasonably feared for his life. That's not up for debate here.
Why did the officer shoot the man? If I know so little and am making bad arguments, why aren't you refuting them with ease?
Why did he shoot the man?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:45 am to Pecker
quote:
tell me what other reason makes sense for why the officer shot the man? What's the most logical reason for the officer shooting the man?
he clearly overreacted. that likely eliminates intent issues
that doesn't mean he's absolved from potential criminal liability
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:45 am to ell_13
quote:
According to you, cops are always stressed and threatened... so they can shoot at any time no matter what the circumstance.
I think stress comes into play. It's not unreasonable to assume it could factor in to poor decision-making.
Do you disagree? I know you don't because you said as much on a previous post.
quote:
Stupidity, Anger, Didn't have his glasses on, Lost his mind, Hates writing traffic reports
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:45 am to Pecker
quote:
What's the most logical reason for the officer shooting the man?
You are not allowed to ask SFP any more questions.
He already owned your arse.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:45 am to Pecker
quote:
Why did the officer shoot the man?
Idk, the guy just had a wallet in his hand.
Maybe the officer was all hopped up on mountain dew. Maybe he'd just had an argument with his wife and was on edge. Maybe he's a veteran and PTSD kicked in. We don't know. What we do know is that the cop wrongfully shot a man.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:46 am to cas4t
quote:
apparently the logical thing to do is assume a cop is going to shoot you over holding your wallet.
what a time to be alive
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