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re: Aircraft down in the GOM
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:55 pm to Traveler
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:55 pm to Traveler
I'd just like to point out to all the people who say "pop the chute" when over water and needing to ditch (which assumes a conscious, active pilot). Apparently, it's actually easier on the people inside to ditch traditionally, by flying onto the water just above stall rather than activate CAPS and use the chute. Less vertical force, lower chance of back injury that would hamper emergency egress. Something like 88% of light aircraft ditchings result in no fatalities. Here's an example:
Textbook ditching near Miami
Textbook ditching near Miami
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:10 am to ElderTiger
quote:
quote: something similar happened to Butch Baum
A lot more to this story than a “simple” plane crash.
Care to expand on your comment? I know nothing about him besides that he was an insurance guy with a lot of money. Didn't know he was running for governor and didn't even know he died in a plane crash.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:59 am to Traveler
This is so sad :-(
Early reports indicate pilot of a Cirrus (N325JK), flying dogs for "Pilots N Paws", became incapacitated in flight with autopilot on & continued into the Gulf of Mexico until fuel was exhausted. Other reports indicate plane was intercepted near Houston & pilot was unresponsive. Neither report seems promising. ??
This missing pilot was a Pilots N Paws hero, on a mission to save the life of a homeless dog when ground control lost contact with him. Please say a prayer, or think good thoughts for him, whatever your belief system allows. These pilots are volunteers who use their own planes, fuel and time to transport dogs to safety in this very large state.
COAST GUARD HAS BEEN DISPATCHED TO SEARCH.
Early reports indicate pilot of a Cirrus (N325JK), flying dogs for "Pilots N Paws", became incapacitated in flight with autopilot on & continued into the Gulf of Mexico until fuel was exhausted. Other reports indicate plane was intercepted near Houston & pilot was unresponsive. Neither report seems promising. ??
This missing pilot was a Pilots N Paws hero, on a mission to save the life of a homeless dog when ground control lost contact with him. Please say a prayer, or think good thoughts for him, whatever your belief system allows. These pilots are volunteers who use their own planes, fuel and time to transport dogs to safety in this very large state.
COAST GUARD HAS BEEN DISPATCHED TO SEARCH.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:44 am to brbengalgal
quote:
on a mission to save the life of a homeless dog
prayers sent for the pilot and his family but in what world is a homeless dog important enough to fly from one location to another?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:59 am to redneck
quote:Most pilots are already flying to that location and just provide transportation. They don't take money, but it does allow them to claim a portion of their flight as tax deductible since it's for a 501c organization. Not a bad way to reduce your flight expenses while helping out.
but in what world is a homeless dog important enough to fly from one location to another?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:07 am to GeauxTigersLee
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Most pilots are already flying to that location and just provide transportation. They don't take money, but it does allow them to claim a portion of their flight as tax deductible since it's for a 501c organization. Not a bad way to reduce your flight expenses while helping out.
gotcha, the way the poster said "on a mission to save this homeless dogs life" made it sound like the trip was only for the dog. guess he didn't end up saving the dogs life eh?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:14 am to redneck
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guess he didn't end up saving the dogs life eh?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:17 am to redneck
quote:the shite people do for a pooch these days
guess he didn't end up saving the dogs life eh?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:59 am to mylsuhat
quote:Yeah I really don't get it. How did we get here?
the shite people do for a pooch these days
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:03 am to Traveler
quote:
An SR22T inbound from PWA (Oklahoma City) to GTU (Georgetown TX) flew past its destination and continued southeast over the Gulf of Mexico where contact was lost. Flightaware link shows flight path.
That sucks.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:16 am to rt3
This isnt a pressurized airplane. It has an oxygen mask system to allow it to go about 12k feet. It could be that he was out of oxygen and fell asleep as well.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:42 am to the4thgen
Any conspiracy theories out there of the guy wanting to disappear?
There have been several cases where these were staged with a mannequin in the pilot seat to look slumped over. Real pilot bails out over land and assumes new identity. Plane runs out of fuel over deep GOM water and goes down before anyone can make it to the area except USAF to witness the plane go down.
There have been several cases where these were staged with a mannequin in the pilot seat to look slumped over. Real pilot bails out over land and assumes new identity. Plane runs out of fuel over deep GOM water and goes down before anyone can make it to the area except USAF to witness the plane go down.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:42 am to Traveler
I read this thread last night and didn't think anything of it. However, when I awoke this morning I found out that this plane belongs to one of my best friends dad. Last I heard, two fighter pilots flew up beside him to check on him and saw that he was unresponsive. As you can imagine, his son is very upset. Please keep them all in your prayers.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:48 am to GeauxTigersLee
This a couple of guys out of KNEW do it for Pitbulls And parolees. They put up their money, then claim the expenses.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:49 am to redneck
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but in what world is a homeless dog important enough to fly from one location to another?
in the pilot's world apparently. You could ask the same of many charitable acts. And that doesn't even address the suggestion that part of the trip's expense can be written off. Pilot probably thought he was doing a good deed- same as you when you offer to do something nice for someone.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:12 am to Janky
nvm.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:14 am
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:13 am to CHEDBALLZ
That's creepy.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:19 am to TH03
How does hypoxia happen so often?
Seems there would be a few safeguards against it?
What altitude does hypoxia become an issue?
Aren't there sensors for any planes that come hear said altitude to alert a pilot BEFORE he may become impaired?
Obviously NOT a pilot so bear with my possibly foolish questions.
Seems there would be a few safeguards against it?
What altitude does hypoxia become an issue?
Aren't there sensors for any planes that come hear said altitude to alert a pilot BEFORE he may become impaired?
Obviously NOT a pilot so bear with my possibly foolish questions.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
How does hypoxia happen so often? Seems there would be a few safeguards against it? What altitude does hypoxia become an issue? Aren't there sensors for any planes that come hear said altitude to alert a pilot BEFORE he may become impaired? Obviously NOT a pilot so bear with my possibly foolish questions
It actually doesn't happen very often when you factor how many hours are flown each year. Its very rare, but VERY public when it does happen.
Oxygen is required above 12500, its a good idea above 10000. People use poor judgment all the time in all kinds of situations, this is no different.
There are settings on some of the newer equipment that will automatically reduce altitude in certain situations, however, most people turn it off.
Please remember, any incident with any airplane becomes big news, you never hear about the guy who ran his F150 into a bridge abutment.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:15 pm to White Roach
quote:
quote: something similar happened to Butch Baum A lot more to this story than a “simple” plane crash.
quote:
Care to expand on your comment? I know nothing about him besides that he was an insurance guy with a lot of money. Didn't know he was running for governor and didn't even know he died in a plane crash.
The final NTSB accident report indicated the crash was caused by the pilot being incapacitated due to hypoxia. The plane was a Cessna 210P which has a pressurized cabin, the NTSB found that the switch to engage the cabin pressurization system was in the off position at the time of the crash. Pilot error, nothing really mysterious about what happened.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:16 pm
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