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re: Aircraft down in the GOM
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:52 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:52 pm to fightin tigers
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Not trying to be morbid or belittle what is a tragedy in any manner, but is suicide in this matter a common thing?
I don't follow such things to know if this is an absurd question.
Not sure why the downvotes. It most certainly is a valid question and it is a much speculated reason for Butch Baum’s crash as his financial condition was apparently dire and he had just bought a large life insurance policy.
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:56 pm to Janky
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18.9 isn't common
It wasn't common for the owner/pilot. Look at his previous flights. All of them were under 15kft.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:56 pm to Traveler
I will go with, heart attack/ other health problem, or carbon monoxide from exhaust problem.
Hypoxia only if there was problem with his O2 system which he should have been using flying at 19,000FT, and he was not aware of it or ignored it, cabin is not pressurized so no possibility of a sudden loss of pressure..
Hypoxia only if there was problem with his O2 system which he should have been using flying at 19,000FT, and he was not aware of it or ignored it, cabin is not pressurized so no possibility of a sudden loss of pressure..
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:56 pm to Traveler
This guy ain’t rolling 25,000 feet in a SR22 that’s for sure.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:58 pm to Jim Smith
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This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:05 pm to Traveler
The peculiar thing is, he climbed immediately to 19k, you would think of a medical issue happenened the track would be straight. Also, to fly that far he would have had to switch tanks, that takes one arm and a conscience brain. Could be medical, but I’m not discounting suicide
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:08 pm to Traveler
Praying he pulled the chute and is floating in a life raft
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:09 pm to MikeAV8s
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The peculiar thing is, he climbed immediately to 19k, you would think of a medical issue happenened the track would be straight. Also, to fly that far he would have had to switch tanks, that takes one arm and a conscience brain. Could be medical, but I’m not discounting suicide
He should have been odd plus 500 for that heading, right? He was 18,900.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:11 pm to Tyga Woods
I can’t imagine the feeling of just floating in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico on a life raft or something like that. Holy shite
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:12 pm to Btrtigerfan
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20k is above the service ceiling for a Cirrus. eta: Turbo version is certified to 25k.
Yes. But you need supplemental oxygen if you're above 12,500 feet.
I fly out of GTU, but I don't know that tail number. There are several cirrus based there.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:15 pm to Btrtigerfan
No, plus 500 is VFR altitudes, he was IFR. However,!if he were VFR, it would be odd+500 on any heading from 001 to 180, even+500 for 181 to 360.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:17 pm to RedFoxx
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:17 pm to Btrtigerfan
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He should have been odd plus 500 for that heading, right? He was 18,900.
No plus 500 for IFR flight.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:18 pm to MikeAV8s
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No, plus 500 is VFR altitudes, he was IFR. However,!if he were VFR, it would be odd+500 on any heading from 001 to 180, even+500 for 181 to 360.
Thanks. I assume icing isn't a factor because of his constant altitude and he appeared to have a little tailwind. He was moving.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:19 pm to Btrtigerfan
I think it’s safe to say icing wasn’t a factor.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:19 pm to Mr. Hangover
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I can’t imagine the feeling of just floating in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico on a life raft or something like that.
The stuff nightmares are made of.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:21 pm to Martini
There's a Butch baum heliport on google maps in the middle of bocage. I'm guessing that where his house was?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:23 pm to Mr. Hangover
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I can’t imagine the feeling of just floating in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico on a life raft or something like that. Holy shite
Better than being in the middle of the Gulf and not floating.
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