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Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:09 am to Paul Allen
Fine dining replaced by fast casual and eating at home, as most places will lose their fine dining establishments without tourism revenue. They were already struggling before but got mostly shut down for a year. They may come back somewhat in some places, but fine dining in small and medium markets that don’t have tourism may not be able to come back.
24 hour bars were only common in a few places before covid, and covid shut them the f$&k down and normalized having reduced hours. I don’t see government nanny states allowing them to go back to 24 hours in New Orleans for sure.
Nearly all venues were bankrupted by covid, even legiondary venues like Tipitina’s and the House of Blues. Live Nation, the largest owner of venues and the largest tour promotion company in the world, was already bankrupt before covid. The entire music industry was absolutely wrecked by a year, essentially, without live music. While the biggest players in the industry can make a living off of streaming revenue, the main lifeblood of the industry is live performances. With so many venues closed and promotion companies belly-up, it will take a very long time to recover. The entire infrastructure for the live performance industry has essentially been destroyed and will need to be rebuilt. They will have to create an entirely new network of venues, touring companies, and promoters. That’s no small feat. A lot of festivals went under as well, and it will take time to attract large enough crowds to pay the headliners that can draw large crowds. I think live music will eventually recover, but it will take up to a decade and the venues won’t be the same. It will never again be what it was.
Movie theaters have been replaced with home streaming, much to my chagrin. I like the theater experience for new movies, but Hollywood seems content to do the end-around.
The mid-sized chains are being bankrupted by and replaced with Wal-Mart, Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot, Costco and a few other of the biggest boxes that had a substantial online presence. Smaller chains like Stein Mart are gonzo. They’re either getting run out of town or bought up.
Dressing rooms are more spaces employees have to clean and monitor. They’re also a major source of shoplifting. Covid shut them down, so stores got spoiled by not having to pay someone to monitor changing rooms. I could see, post covid, only high end stores having changing rooms and all other stores switching to a returns based system where you buy it, try it on at home, and return what doesn’t fit.
We saw freedom of movement severely curtailed post 9/11. That became our new normal. We will see a similar new normal in transportation due to the government’s response to Covid. That’s just the reality of bureaucratic security theater.
24 hour bars were only common in a few places before covid, and covid shut them the f$&k down and normalized having reduced hours. I don’t see government nanny states allowing them to go back to 24 hours in New Orleans for sure.
Nearly all venues were bankrupted by covid, even legiondary venues like Tipitina’s and the House of Blues. Live Nation, the largest owner of venues and the largest tour promotion company in the world, was already bankrupt before covid. The entire music industry was absolutely wrecked by a year, essentially, without live music. While the biggest players in the industry can make a living off of streaming revenue, the main lifeblood of the industry is live performances. With so many venues closed and promotion companies belly-up, it will take a very long time to recover. The entire infrastructure for the live performance industry has essentially been destroyed and will need to be rebuilt. They will have to create an entirely new network of venues, touring companies, and promoters. That’s no small feat. A lot of festivals went under as well, and it will take time to attract large enough crowds to pay the headliners that can draw large crowds. I think live music will eventually recover, but it will take up to a decade and the venues won’t be the same. It will never again be what it was.
Movie theaters have been replaced with home streaming, much to my chagrin. I like the theater experience for new movies, but Hollywood seems content to do the end-around.
The mid-sized chains are being bankrupted by and replaced with Wal-Mart, Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot, Costco and a few other of the biggest boxes that had a substantial online presence. Smaller chains like Stein Mart are gonzo. They’re either getting run out of town or bought up.
Dressing rooms are more spaces employees have to clean and monitor. They’re also a major source of shoplifting. Covid shut them down, so stores got spoiled by not having to pay someone to monitor changing rooms. I could see, post covid, only high end stores having changing rooms and all other stores switching to a returns based system where you buy it, try it on at home, and return what doesn’t fit.
We saw freedom of movement severely curtailed post 9/11. That became our new normal. We will see a similar new normal in transportation due to the government’s response to Covid. That’s just the reality of bureaucratic security theater.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:12 am to stout
For the LOVE of god please continue to stand six feet away from me in any line ever.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:14 am to PrettyBird
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For the LOVE of god please continue to stand six feet away from me in any line ever.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:18 am to stout
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After COVID is over, what things that were normal before will not come back?
Snorting cocaine off of a stripper's arse. All the strip clubs will be closed and the girls made too much money on onlyfans.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:19 am to PrettyBird
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For the LOVE of god please continue to stand six feet away from me in any line ever.
Preach sista...this is the best thing to come out of this pandemic.....respect my personal space and dont stand so fricking close to me.....it's always been one of my pet peeves especially when in a line and someone is standing a foot behind you all up in my arse.
I love the 6' rule and I hope it stays.....same with tables in a restaurant....keep those tables spaced out.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:20 am to PrettyBird
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For the LOVE of god please continue to stand six feet away from me in any line ever.
Right? People in this country have some serious boundary issues in the store. I've legit faked coughing to get someone to back the frick up.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:20 am to stout
Small businesses, liberty/freedom, not being censored for everything, a sense of togetherness, and not have everything you do be considered racist.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:21 am to tgrbaitn08
For you, its 10 ft.
Same to you, sir.
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LSUboo
Same to you, sir.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:24 am to PrettyBird
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For you, its 10 ft.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:24 am to Paul Allen
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doubt that you care
Correct
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but the downvotes that you are receiving is a complete and direct indictment of how asinine your thread is.
At least I don't have the worst shtick in the history of this site and still carry it on thinking its so fresh and funny.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:24 am to DaBeerz
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There will be some people that will never stop wearing masks in public
Yes they are called Asians.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:25 am to kingbob
Most cities don’t rely on tourism to fuel their bars and restaurants.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:31 am to NIH
And I think smaller markets that do not will struggle to fill fine dining. Of all of the service industry, fine dining was hurt the second most by covid behind music venues. I see fine dining in tourist markets rebounding, but elsewhere not so much, especially if there’s a major long term decline in business travel. Less business travel means way less client lunches and dinners at high end restaurants.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:43 am to SCgamecock2988
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I've heard DUIs have gone down 40%, at least here. Then again who knows if that figure is true, but it makes sense.
I'd be willing to bet alcoholism has gone way up
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:57 am to kingbob
I don’t think that’s really true in cities with a lot of money.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:58 am to stout
Live music at smaller venues.
Used to be 8-10 different places in my area any given Fri/Sat night to go see live music. That of course is almost non-existent now.
If I'm right, it's a bummer for me as it means less cool bands coming in from out of town that I'd otherwise never get to see w/o travelling.
Used to be 8-10 different places in my area any given Fri/Sat night to go see live music. That of course is almost non-existent now.
If I'm right, it's a bummer for me as it means less cool bands coming in from out of town that I'd otherwise never get to see w/o travelling.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:59 am to kingbob
all you are doing is talking about already struggling markets and blaming COVID for their decline when they were already declining
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:02 am to SCgamecock2988
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I am concerned bars won't be open until 2 AM anymore (and even later on nights that aren't Sat night/Sun morning). I've heard DUIs have gone down 40%, at least here. Then again who knows if that figure is true, but it makes sense.
I don't think it will happen, but I had the same concern. Most of my friends that bartend have said they can't possibly imagine going back now that they've gotten used to being in bed by midnight. I don't blame them. Doubt I ever stay out until 2am again.
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