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re: After closure, Bogie's bar files for bankruptcy, owes landlord $90K
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Ask and if you lie you can go to jail.
Lol ok bud, I think the point is soaring right over your noggin.
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Congrats on admitting to tax evasion on the internet,
It’s not illegal to pay cash for booze. You are very naive my friend.
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And I know who their distributor is anyway so your stupid point is irrelevant.
Ummm ok cool
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:11 pm to Howyouluhdat
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It’s not illegal to pay cash for booze. You are very naive my friend.
I used to deliver beer to bars and stores and I’d say 90% either paid with cash, but mostly checks. Very few had charge accounts.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:24 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Lol ok bud, I think the point is soaring right over your noggin
Well no not really at all. There's several ways the state is going to derive revenue numbers in the bar or restaurant industry if you can't produce record. Inventory and sales analysis, bank account info, sales tax remittance, etc.
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It’s not illegal to pay cash for booze. You are very naive my friend.
It's certainly illegal to take in cash, not record it, and then use said cash to make a payment in order to avoid income tax which is what you were insinuating.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Wasn't the owner somehow involved with the Pennington's daughter?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:26 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I used to deliver beer to bars and stores and I’d say 90% either paid with cash, but mostly checks
So there was a paper trail. Did you provide a receipt for cash transactions?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:26 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
quote:Since I spent so much time there, I knew a lot of the guys. I even knew a bunch before they started working there. They weren't exceptionally popular or anything before Fred's. They were mainly just normal guys. Some were even introverted.
I have a theory on why Fred’s has always been able to do so well...
I have notice that they do a really good job of hiring popular people to work the doors and be bouncers. These people in turn bring their like minded friends
Most really liked working there, liked the guys they worked with (always had groups living together), liked the vacations, and were good at making drunk people drinks. Almost all worked their way through college at Fred's
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:00 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Inventory and sales analysis, bank account info, sales tax remittance, etc.
Inventory/sales analysis would require a paper trail of a purchase/sale. Not sure what you don’t understand here. Cash never touches the bank. There is no “sale” lol. What else Mr Officer?
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It's certainly illegal to take in cash, not record it, and then use said cash to make a payment in order to avoid income tax which is what you were insinuating.
Right but no one knows this...you understand yet?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:19 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Not sure what you don’t understand here. Cash never touches the bank. There is no “sale” lol. What else Mr Officer?
You realize the liquor distributor most likely keeps records rights? A sale takes 2 people, and rarely are they both working under the table now a days.
The best way for bars to hide money from the IRS that I have seen personally is that bars get tons of free promotional booze. Anytime a new booze came out the bar would get a case or 10 of it to try out. Which is pretty frequently. But you also have your mixers and what not, the irs could average out how much say limes you were buying and know you were hustling vodka tonics.
I will say though, bars use cover charges sporadically. It would take some pretty serious analysis to figure out if they were hustling under the table. Late football games for example, the bars were often dead on Saturdays because everyone was tired but slammed on Friday. But a crappy opponent and afternoon game the bars may be slammed all weekend. Sometimes bars wouldn’t charge cover until 10pm and other times it was all day. I doubt they can’t track of when they did it, it was usually just as soon as they got busy.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:34 pm to baldona
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You realize the liquor distributor most likely keeps records rights? A sale takes 2 people, and rarely are they both working under the table now a days.
You’d be surprised how many dirtbags are out there doing business together
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:04 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Inventory/sales analysis would require a paper trail of a purchase/sale. Not sure what you don’t understand here. Cash never touches the bank. There is no “sale” lol. What else Mr Officer?
If you have zero records and you get audited, you're getting fricked csn promise you that. Can't show the state or IRS any record? They'll just create an estimate for you and then you get to prove them wrong.
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you understand yet?
Yes, I understand you are a fricking idiot who has no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:12 pm to jimbeam
quote:Good to know. It's the last bar I visited in Baton Rouge. Someone that posts on the Geaux247 board got them to open for us on College Football NSD a few years back. Fred's sold us beer, and a caterer brought in some food. Might have been the biggest sausage fest they've ever hosted.
Fred’s is the best college bar in BR.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:13 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
They should have pulled back the doors , bust open the books, and made a call for help to Jon Taffer
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
dude, seriously, shut the frick up nobody cares
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:21 pm to Delacroix22
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dude, seriously, shut the frick up nobody cares
You cared enough to go out of your way and make a conscious decision to respond you didn't care instead of continue to scroll.
But clearly you don't care.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:24 pm to baldona
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That's probably one or two months of sales tax right? Not much more than that really. If they are doing $500k a month in sales, which would be $30k a night for 10 nights for the weekends and then $15k for slow nights
You’re outta your mind if you think any bar does $500k a month. There isn’t a single bar in Baton Rouge that does that. Maybe a Vegas bar.
You’re probably looking at 3 night a week do probably 15-20k a week. Probably 60-80 a week when school is in. So probably 2-3 million in sales a year. Probably with a 20% margin.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:30 pm to TigerGM
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You’re outta your mind if you think any bar does $500k a month
Certainly not regularly, but during an Alabama home football game or a Super Regional series I could see Fred's doing 500k. For the Bama game they open at like 9AM and don't close until 2AM. If they have a thousand people there for every hour they're open (and they have the big tejt outside so I would guess it's atleast close?) they only need an average ticket of about $14 to gross 250k in a day.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:33 pm to Cosmo
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How the frick could he not pay rent?
Alimony is a bitch.
Also, his nickname is “Mugsy”
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