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Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:45 pm to 427Nova
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Sure. I’m suppose to believe 2 teenagers out thought the greatest mathematicians in world. Guys with 180 IQ’s. This isn’t Good Will Hunting.
Fluid intelligence peaks far earlier than crystallized intelligence. This, especially in mathematics, leads to a lot of out-of-the-box thinking happening at a relatively young age. As you build up more and more crystallized knowledge it actually inhibits that out-of-the-box thinking.
Associates almost half my age and only having about 15% of the time in our field are far more likely to come up with a novel approach to a problem than I am. It is the same thing I did 20+ years ago.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:48 pm to 427Nova
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I’m suppose to believe 2 teenagers out thought the greatest mathematicians in world. Guys with 180 IQ’s. This isn’t Good Will Hunting.
Their proof is mathematically correct. I can't speak to how novel it is, but many great mathematicians proved their work at exceptionally young ages (Tao, Galois, Ramanujan, etc.)
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:50 pm to 427Nova
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Sure. I’m suppose to believe 2 teenagers out thought the greatest mathematicians in world. Guys with 180 IQ’s. This isn’t Good Will Hunting
Well they were invited to a mathematics conference to present their proof. So obviously they're fooling the 180 IQ guys into believing it too
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:51 pm to 427Nova
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This isn’t Good Will Hunting.
No, but it is Good Ne’Kiya Jackson/Calcea Johnson.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:55 pm to Ingeniero
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Obviously wasn't as simple as the media coverage made it seem.
The media incorrectly described it. IIRC they said they did not use trig to prove the Pythagorean theorem then proceed to say they used the Law of Sines to prove Pythagorean theorem which is trig.
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They ended up using some infinite series along with trigonometric identities
So they used calculus and the law of sines to prove the Pythagorean theorem.
Impressive.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:59 pm to GumboPot
You know what's impressive, I can use 3 sticks to prove Pythagorean Theorem.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:03 pm to Epaminondas
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Apparently, a lot of dumbasses here believe it.
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Epaminondas
Still triggered by these two teenage girls I see.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:11 pm to CarRamrod
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You know what's impressive
Seriously, it is a new proof and they did step out of trig while predominantly using trig to avoid circular reasoning with the infinite series to derive a^2 + b^2 part of their equation. Their approach is pretty elegant. The traditional way to prove Pythagorean theorem is through geometry.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:14 pm to Ingeniero
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They ended up using some infinite series along with trigonometric identities
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:16 pm to GumboPot
Good for them, like someone else said "Keep them away from hood influences".
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:19 pm to Ingeniero
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They ended up using some infinite series along with trigonometric identities.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:21 pm to Ingeniero
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:32 pm to Ingeniero
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Well they were invited to a mathematics conference to present their proof. So obviously they're fooling the 180 IQ guys into believing it too
That’s why they were invited to present at a regional AMS conference that included Louisiana…
Question has never been proving theorem with trig but proving the theorem using trig without resorting to circular reasoning.
Proving theorem another way is some good work and still a fairly big deal (if passes peer review), but that is not what keeps getting reported or posted.
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Some mathematicians argue that using trigonometry to independently prove the theorem is actually impossible, including Elisha Loomis, whose book on the topic (originally published almost a century ago) states that “there are no trigonometric proofs because all the fundamental formulae of trigonometry are themselves based upon the truth of the Pythagorean theorem.”
The regional AMS encouraged them to continue studies and submit their work to peer-reviewed journal to verify their presentation of proving the theorem using trig without using circular reasoning.
Was that done?
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:55 pm to Ingeniero
I'm sure there's no way they were given this info for the sake of publicity and feelsies.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:58 pm to Ingeniero
Once they started using letters in math problems I was done
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:04 pm to Ingeniero
Bet they used ChatGPT
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:10 pm to Kafka
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BLACK MAGIC WOMAN
I've always wondered: Is she a black Magic-Woman (A.A. female magician) or a Black-Magic woman (voodoo priestess)?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:13 pm to dallastigers
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The Pythagorean theorem has been proven many times using non-trig methods. Using trig to prove it has always been considered using trig to prove itself. They presented to proving it using Trig but somehow without the inherent circular issues with basically using trig to prove trig. “Trigonometric identities are equalities that involve trigonometric functions and are true for every value of the occurring variables for which both sides of the equality are defined.” One trigonometric identity is the Pythagorean identity - “is an identity expressing the Pythagorean theorem in terms of trigonometric functions.”
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:22 pm to Ingeniero
Incredible...Noble Prize worthy...I have been going over their proof of work...astounding.
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