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re: Abundance Mindset vs. Poverty Mindset

Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41295 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:37 am to
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I don't mind spending, but lately I basically have everything I want. I am also sick of cheap Chinese shite that breaks every other use, so I've basically got a list of things that I can upgrade, and whenever I get the urge to buy something, I look at the list and get an American made version.


I recently heard an adage about tools:

“Buy the cheapest version you can to get that first job done and use it until it breaks. Then buy the most expensive one you can afford for the number of times you envision using the tool”

Basically, if you need a tool for one job, buy cheap and use it as needed in the future. If you end up using it a lot, you now know what does and doesn’t work with it and you can buy a much nicer one with an insight into exactly what you want/need in the tool.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3998 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:52 am to
Just buy the boat…
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37092 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:54 am to
I don’t really splurge

I have most all I’ll ever need at the moment anyway

I don’t place an emphasis on stuff or status of attempting to impress people I don’t know

But if there’s something I want within reason, I’ll get it. But most of the time it’s something I don’t really need
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34803 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:00 am to
I was abundance mindset the first 40 years of my life. When my oldest turned 13 a year ago and i realized i had the next 12 years to pay for three colleges and three cars it hit me hard and started trying to make up for lost time. Abundance mindset was much more fun, hope to get back to it someday
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:04 am to
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The OT lets poors in now?


Baw, ah’m so po’ I can’t even afford the ending -or to the word po’ !!
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91256 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:09 am to
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I saw a video yesterday about the abundance mindset—where you trust that money flows back when you invest in things you enjoy or believe in. This guy swears by it. Says more opportunities show itself and the money always seems to replenish itself.


my brother always say "its just money; you can always make more"

it hasn't really worked out that well for him but he's not destitute either.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4801 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:49 am to
The real tragedy of the poor is the poverty of their aspirations.
~Adam Smith
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
4751 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:00 pm to
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I understand the difference between a "need" and a "want".

I understand this as well, but my GF introduced me to the concept of a "useful want" (i.e. not something you "need", but ostensibily wouldn't hurt to have). I don't remember what the potential purchase was, but I at the idea when she pitched it.

I don't particularly subscribe to that notion because just about anything can be justified if you try hard enough.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5053 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Those with an abundance mindset will be asking those with a poor mindset for help when the money runs out.


I believe the technical term for those people is "wives".

Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3186 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:52 pm to
1) You should distinguish between being frugal and being of a poverty mindset.

Plenty of rich people penny pinch on everyday items (I think I've seen that... it was either Mark Cuban or Michael Dell... still buy things like toilet paper in bulk at Costco to not waste money; and Warren Buffett remained in his modest house after becoming wealthy). This is frugal, but not poverty mindset related. Similarly, plenty of people squander money stupidly when they shouldn't and rack up debt... and it will NEVER lead to wealth despite their seemingly carefree attitude towards money. Just because you loosen up your wallet and treat yourself to something you enjoy does NOT mean money will flow towards you.

2) Understand the underlying psychology.

Poverty mindset (also called scarcity mindset) really points to being driven by fear and cutting yourself off from whatever creativity you might have. That creativity in whatever form (as a laborer, a problem solver, etc.) is the source of your power that should ideally connect you to people who might need your help and become the basis of an income for you. Everytime you're afraid of spending money to treat yourself, it isn't that the decision to spend or save (be frugal) will make a specific difference. Buying whatever treat will not suddenly make the universe say, "Hey, look, he's relaxing now... let's send wealth his way!" You haven't dealt with the underlying issue: which is usually that in some way you've gotten in your own head and in that fearful space sort of cut yourself off from belief in yourself... this type negative thinking, prevents you from seeing new opportunities and makes you risk averse.

In contrast, an abundance mindset person might have just as little as you, might be frugal but might not be, but will generally have more of an outward looking disposition (vs fearfully looking inward). They will be open to new opportunities and more willing to gamble what they have to pursue it... I think this latter point (willingness to gamble on themselves) becomes a point of confusion for some. There is a big difference in calculated gambles on yourself to advance your position vs freely spending to treat yourself in a way that isn't growth oriented.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6604 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:10 pm to
Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill is an easy read. Highly, highly recommend.
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2165 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:19 pm to
Abundance mindset works in my experience…

It doesn’t mean you just go around and spend Willy Nilly because the money will just fall out of the sky.

You have to make it so your money works for you not against you.

Action… Faith without works is dead.
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
2565 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:29 pm to
Unless inherited, or just luck. Long term poverty mindset is the only way to achieve the abundance mindset.



Unless you rolled your DOGE before Elon walked out on stage of SNL into XRP, and holding strong.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:15 pm to
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Where do you find yourself between these two mindsets. Should I loosen up and risk running out of money before the end of each month? (I have side hustles but still always seems to run out)


This is just another way of phrasing "is the cup half empty or full".

The difference is that you can only live beyond your for so long before you run out of room.
Posted by Lsukinesalum2001
Member since Sep 2022
95 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:30 pm to
Were you listening to a televangelist?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24479 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:50 pm to
Become a preacher and then go work in one of those mega churches like Joel Osteen. They preach the prosperity gospel and get to be rich as all get out...

At least here on Earth anyway. Things may change for you in the next realm though.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14484 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:02 pm to
Definitely the Abundance Mindset...My mantra is "money flies at me"....I say it constantly and money always does...pretty amazing.
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