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A sacred tenet of vegetarianism got bloodied today.

Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19957 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:11 am
Health benefits of eating less red meat not based on solid science.


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Public health officials for years have urged Americans to limit consumption of red meat and processed meats because of concerns that these foods are linked to heart disease, cancer and other ills.

But on Monday, in a remarkable turnabout, an international collaboration of researchers produced a series of analyses concluding that the advice, a bedrock of almost all dietary guidelines, is not backed by good scientific evidence.

If there are health benefits from eating less beef and pork, they are small, the researchers concluded. Indeed, the advantages are so faint that they can be discerned only when looking at large populations, the scientists said, and are not sufficient to tell individuals to change their meat-eating habits.

“The certainty of evidence for these risk reductions was low to very low,” said Bradley Johnston, an epidemiologist at Dalhousie University in Canada and leader of the group publishing the new research in the Annals of Internal Medicine.


This isn't exactly news to those that have known the consequence of governments throwing money at public health "researchers": Low quality academic pyramid schemes to establish a "consensus" and dupe the gullible masses.


ETA: Heartwarming story of vegan activist getting punched in the face, with video.

Vegans protest pizza joint, get punched.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 8:20 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:12 am to
Eat things that haven't been processed.
Engage in physical activity.
You'll be fine.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30030 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:29 am to
frick bitches. Get money.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19957 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:33 am to
quote:

Eat things that haven't been processed.


That's kind of hard since any form of cooking, cutting, etc. is processing.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:33 am to
We all know what I meant by that.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19957 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:35 am to
Your snack tonight is cracklins and pimento cheese dip...
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:38 am to
I give advice; I don't follow it.

FWIW I made the pimento cheese but I definitely bought some Golden Flake™ cracklins.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:42 am to
Our brains are uncharacteristically gigantic relative to our bodies in the context of the animal kingdom at large. The beasts below our station carry on their bones a utility essential to the pursuit of human wellness- meat. It played a big part in our brain's early development- as it unquestionably does still to this day.

Transitioning from fruits and nuts foraged from the forests and jungles they inhabited, early humans made a big step forward when they developed such a taste for the raw flesh of dead creatures that it compelled them to exit their caves and jungled nests in search of quarry on the plains. Somewhere along the line, these transitional hunter-gatherers took to cooking the bloody cuts of flesh as a means of mitigating the unsavory factors associated with meat of questionable quality. Meat can do, and did, wonders for the brain- and heat potentiated that wonderful development. Eating meat that is appropriately cooked, not too little, not too much, is literally a big brain move.

I can respect choosing not to eat meat over issues relating to the brutal nature of massive scale meat production- the life of a Tyson chicken is an affront to the
fundamental dignity of life that should be afforded to all creatures.

Choosing not to eat because you are unsettled by the drugs and steroids pumped into the animal from birth to slaughter is also understandable, and there are ways to get around that and still enjoy a roasted bird.

Lifestyling as a vegetarian/veganism is a regressive activity, and purposeful exclusion of meat proteins and fats from one's diet is an act of nutritional self-flaggelation; to do so is to wage an active and hostile campaign against one's own biologic design in pigheaded contradiction to the wealth of knowledge which compose the entirety of evolutionary and dietary sciences. These are scared people. They are scared of their own awesome potential as a human. Cellulite and stretch marks, adult acne, beefy flanks of corpulent blubber around the midsection, long-ossified muscle, brittle bones, and stunted brains: these are just a few of the ordeals that attend their destructive vocation. They look unmistakably like baby bird shite- all this, yet they insist theirs is the natural human diet. They inundate their sad, puppy-piss guts with colorful pastes and weapons-grade quantities of soy. They terrorize the entire food service industry with demands of special attention. In forsaking the sin of meat consumption, they seek to sew seeds of solace in their bloated, rippling, inadequately bloused bellies; they reap only infirmity abd repulsion. A vegan/vegetarian who rejects meat on the basis of dietary virtue is a consummate ingrate- a maladjusted l vole living in a hole, petrified of tapping into their own inherent world-conquering potential.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 8:02 am
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
4193 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:16 am to
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frick bitches. Get money. Eat burgers.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:00 am to
quote:

We all know what I meant by that.
Yep, forget Impossible Whoppers and all the other tremendously processed stuff they are trying to call food. Slice or tear off a hunk, chunk, or slab of your kids favorite anthropomorphized real animal and slather in appropriate sauce to your hearts content.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68603 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:02 am to
quote:

frick bitches. Get money. Eat steaks.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3935 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:05 am to
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frick bitches. Get money. Eat steaks.


Eta Wtodd beat me.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 6:07 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76148 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:06 am to
quote:

That's kind of hard since any form of cooking, cutting, etc. is processing.
Arky “processing”:

Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:35 am to
There's some validity to the study and it's going to cause waves, but there is reason to take it with a grain of salt. The biggest reason of all is that it's an epidemiological study, which can be notoriously bad evidence if the variables are not set up properly. I want to see experts and nutritional scientists break it down, which they undoubtedly will soon.

I am not at all vegetarian or vegan. Just cautioning people before we jump off of the cliff and start claiming that red meat is a wonderful health food.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9322 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:49 am to
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I am not at all vegetarian or vegan. Just cautioning people before we jump off of the cliff and start claiming that red meat is a wonderful health food.


Well, it for sure as shite isn't bad for you, and that's a start because it IS better for you. You of all people have read my posts over the years.

I didn't read this article, but it sounds like a study removed some confounding variables that are always present in the "meat is bad for you" studies.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15385 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:02 am to
Damn that was epic. I thought I was going to shed a tear.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103847 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:07 am to
Just like anything, it’s all about moderation.

Eating a 16oz ribeye once a week and a plate of ribs once a week with chicken and fish in between ain’t gonna hurt you.

Eating 3 24oz cowboy ribeyes a week along with burgers, fried shite, salads doused in ranch, and sugary drinks will probably cause heart issues
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103847 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:09 am to
quote:

give advice; I don't follow it


Same. Last night I ate a huge ribeye with a baked potato that was covered in bacon bits, cheese, and ranch dressing with a salad. Then drank 5 beers afterward
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103847 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:12 am to
quote:

respect choosing not to eat meat over issues relating to the brutal nature of massive scale meat production- the life of a Tyson chicken is an affront to the
fundamental dignity of life that should be afforded to all creatures.

Choosing not to eat because you are unsettled by the drugs and steroids pumped into the animal from birth to slaughter is also understandable, and there are ways to get around that and still enjoy a roasted bird.


As can I. I wish I owned a large enough tract of pasture land to have a small chicken house and a few cows/pigs and raise my own meat tbh
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13768 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:15 am to
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deltaland

quote:

I wish I owned a large enough tract of pasture land to have a small chicken house and a few cows/pigs and raise my own meat tbh


Aren't you a fish farmer
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