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re: A main reason for unemployment is that people's bad choices have caught up with them
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:09 pm to Sweltering Chill
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:09 pm to Sweltering Chill
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or do yall usually find out about their kids and personal situations after hiring them?
I don't know what questions they ask in the hiring process, but I doubt this is one of them. I get a list of names of the next 'batch' which is usually 5-7 people. We do about 6 training classes a year. Between single mothers and people with transportation issues, it's our 2 biggest factors of who's successful and who's not. Of course, determination to succeed is high up there too. It's not a very good pool of candidates and I've been working with a tech school up here to start an 'externship' type program and it's beginning to solve some of our problems. If they can make it through that school, then a 10 week unpaid internship with us, they've all been 100% successful. It's win-win and I'm doing all I can to nurture that. The school loves it because it helps their rating of job placement and the director there really cares about his students.
That being said, the project were on requires a full pipeline of 'talent' and scrubs are often mixed in there to fill the classes and eventual team.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:11 pm to Thundercles
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When you're operating a 15 person crew and you hitting numbers is reliant on 15 people being there a certain percentage of the time, single mothers cause a huge problem with that because their absentee rate is comically high.
This EXACTLY sums up a large majority of my work stress, except our team is about 35.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:15 pm to Tarik One
Background checks knock a hell of a dent in the worker pool.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:18 pm to ScopeCreep
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Ok, boomer
Can we please end this stupid arse saying?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:35 pm to adavis
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Can we please end this stupid arse saying?
You seem triggered. Need a safe space, snowflake?
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:28 am to Sweltering Chill
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or do yall usually find out about their kids and personal situations after hiring them?
Legally you can't ask. If the interviewer does ask and the person doesn't get the job, that's an easy discrimination claim.
However, the information tends to get volunteered pretty readily. People don't realize it's a criteria considered and just talk about their kids unprompted.
Once hired, the information comes to light within a few weeks because they call in for sick kids. Where I worked any unexcused absence counted against a balance allotted for the year. Once the balance hit zero, the person could be fired. Single mothers would blow through that the fastest.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 3:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
That makes no sense. Snowflakes are the ones who say "okay boomer."
Posted on 12/28/19 at 3:57 am to supadave3
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If they can make it through that school, then a 10 week unpaid internship with us, they've all been 100% successful
This is why only dregs are applying with you.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 4:21 am to CarlBrutananadilews
quote:Describe these people who "just fall thru the cracks" where there are no prior bad choices causing that fall?
This isnt true, some people just fall through the cracks.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:45 am to Tarik One
The amount of young(ish) people with no high school diploma/no ged and no drivers license is shocking. How could they ever hope to land a decent job?
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:30 am to adavis
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Snowflakes are the ones who say "okay boomer."
Wrong
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:46 am to Draconian Sanctions
He’s definitely triggered
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:50 am to RollTide1987
quote:right, but I still see and hear so many people talking about “this economy” as if it’s 2010.
This is an odd thread considering that unemployment is now at a 50-year low.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:51 am to adavis
quote:as soon as people stop making 350 jokes
Can we please end this stupid arse saying?
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:54 am to Colonel Angus
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Was talking to a guy that owns a Chik Fil A (operator..not store manager). He said in this current economy it is next to impossible to find solid employees unless you steal them from comparable places and give them a big pay hike. The people out there now who are fully unemployed are the absolute bottom of the barrel. All of the hard workers and punctual loyal folks already have decent jobs. Only the total shitbirds are left.
This is very much true. I had an opening a few months ago. I received about 150 resumes. I interviewed 4 people. Horrible pool to pick from right now.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:02 am to Thundercles
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Legally you can't ask. If the interviewer does ask and the person doesn't get the job, that's an easy discrimination claim.
This is absolutely true. One questions I always ask during an interview is, "Tell me about yourself". People will tell you all kinds of shite that you don't/can't ask about.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:46 am to Tarik One
If you seriously believe this is the reason that so many jobs have become low wage you need to go back to school. Corporations buying corporations until there is little to no competition and then keeping wages low by conspiring and agreeing with the very few competitors that are out there to set a max amount of pay at each level of employment is the real answer. At the heart of this is the open and shamelessly corrupt act of bribing of politicians to approve mergers that should never have been approved but that's only the tip of the iceberg of the corrupt and unethical things that you can literally pay a politician to do. They have ingeniously labeled this 'lobbying' in order to avoid calling it what it really is which is outright bribery. At the end of the day this is all legal of course because guess who makes the laws? Whatever you do don't confuse what's legal with what's ethical and moral. It's incredibly depressing when people have to bust their arse at a 50+ hour a week low wage jobs just to barely make ends meet and often have to borrow money or pull out the credit card (same thing as borrowing money) to get through to the next payday and some people just give up because it's not worth it.
So agreed that bad choices can catch up to you, but to say that it's the primary reason for unemployment and low wages is ridiculous.
So agreed that bad choices can catch up to you, but to say that it's the primary reason for unemployment and low wages is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:10 am
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:10 am to supadave3
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a 10 week unpaid internship
I get that most people can hold it together for 10 weeks, but there are many who can't go to school, work a job that pays and take on an unpaid internship. We long ago gave up unpaid internships and the pool of qualified applicants increased greatly.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:16 am to Tarik One
Everything is on a Bell curve. With the low unemploymment right now most of the out of work are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down on that low end tail.
You got 150-180 million people of employment age and you are picking among the worst 6 million what do you think you will get?
Of course there's a certain amount of flux at any given time of people looking to move/advance, but that doesn't help the net problem, just creates another hole - eventually somebody is stuck looking in that bottom 6 million.
You got 150-180 million people of employment age and you are picking among the worst 6 million what do you think you will get?
Of course there's a certain amount of flux at any given time of people looking to move/advance, but that doesn't help the net problem, just creates another hole - eventually somebody is stuck looking in that bottom 6 million.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:30 am to dawgfan24348
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How?
Holy frick. Is the OT really this stupid?
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dawgfan24348
Nevermind......
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