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re: A brand new house blew up today in Ragley 16 year old dead 5 others injured

Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196626 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:43 pm to
man,, so tragic

prayers for all

life just doesn't make sense
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:47 pm to
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because that's how lawyers operate


Because that’s how the law operates. You name everyone conceivably responsible because if you don’t and the prescriptive period runs then you can’t bring them in.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2878 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:57 pm to
When k first heard about it I figured it was a meth lab considering the area. Apparently this was a great family with dreams moving into a new home. I think the plumber is the one in a tight spot here. The propane company simply fills the tank and there’s a meter at the house which I think is closed when they fill it. There’s another propane supplier in DeRidder also. But the builder and the plumber are the primary responsibility based on my experience building. We had a leak in our outdoor kitchen when we built.

Edit to say
Prayers for the family. Incredibly sad.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted by StrikeIndicator
Sec. 419
Member since May 2019
1048 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:52 pm to
Not to derail but my plumber notified me last week they were being required to have a propane license/ endorsement by the state plumbing board.

* sad story , prayers for the family.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4563 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:05 pm to
The additive to propane to give it a means of leak detection via smell is called Mercaptans.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
7085 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:12 pm to
I’m sorry for your family’s loss. What a tragedy.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15187 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Not sure what happened, but is possible that piping was all good and a fitting in the actual gas log insert was leaking. Several possibilities.


The house we moved into had a gas log we removed. The internally corroded and was leaking when I pressure tested the system.

Ripped it all out and plugged the line. Fixed some old valves and pressure and checked with snoop.

It can happen.

Edit: prayers for the family.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8066 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:43 pm to
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What about the code inspectors? Any liability for them and the Parish?


Has a govt employee ever seen punishment for anything?
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5061 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:48 pm to
If I remember when we built our house the inspector did multiple inspections throughout the process of us building. I can’t wrap my head around the house passing inspection if the inspector did his job. I would have thought he would have caught that leak.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:50 pm to
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You name everyone conceivably responsible because if you don’t and the prescriptive period runs then you can’t bring them in.


Even beyond a SOL issue (I know I know LA and prescription but I can't bring myself to call it that, it is just odd to me) there is a jury issue. If a plaintiff's attorney decides there are only two possible defendants but decides only one of them is arguably responsible and only files against one it can cause a verdict issue. If P attorney files suit against X and goes to trial and X's D is able to convince the jury it is 100% Y's fault and then the P turns around and sues Y and Y's D is able to convince a separate jury it is 100% X's fault then the P has lost all possible claims. That is not even counting how the various forms of comparative and contributory negligence impacts the issues.

People who see in binary black and white can't fathom how the law works and honestly don't understand people either.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11747 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 10:59 pm to
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have never built a house dealing with a propane company so maybe I am off here. Just seems odd the liability could be passed to the propane supplier.


I do it in Texas a good bit. They are a pain the arse and honestly, they should be. They are licensed thru the Texas Railroad Commission (no idea why) and they will not install a tank on new construction without all of the gas appliances installed, including flex lines (they will not do them for you and will not touch one). The install the tank, pressure the lines and then check that all appliances work as designed before green tagging their work. You can not get a final from city without all propane appliances green tagged by the propane tank installer, and I believe there is a 30 day window between tank install and final city inspection.

The propane company will initially install the tank with only a few gallons of propane (Which I assume is to prevent a tragedy like this one). Once you get final from city, the customer/builder has to call for tank fill.

My professional nightmare is always a fire/explosion.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:15 pm to
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Because that’s how the law operates. You name everyone conceivably responsible because if you don’t and the prescriptive period runs then you can’t bring them in.



The plantiffs and their lawyer should then pay any legal fees and any related expenses for anyone they think is conceivably responsible who ends up having no responsibility.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 11:18 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:18 pm to
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People who see in binary black and white can't fathom how the law works and honestly don't understand people either.


You went full obtuse at the end.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12637 posts
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:04 am to
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You’re supposed to pressure test all the gas piping in the house to pass inspection. I wonder what happened?

Where I live, that isn’t even a code thing. I just replaced 100% of the gas lines in my 110 year old house and the gas company does the pressure test to turn service on. I was building a pool and we roughed everything, the city inspector checked the pressure test, got the green tag, then the gas company comes out and to hook up the new line to the old, they have to disconnect the meter and will run their own PT on everything once it is all connected.

My old stuff predictably failed and I had a plumber on standby ready to go in and tear it all out and redo all the lines. Anytime they shut off service, they’re pressure testing, they test at pressure far higher than what will actually be coming into the lines once service is connected.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 4:05 am
Posted by indytiger
Krotz Springs
Member since Oct 2004
10252 posts
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:20 am to
So, trying to wrap my head around this...

There was a leak in their propane fireplace. The leaking propane built up to a pretty large level, filling the fireplace cavity and surrounding area. Something ignited it, and boom?
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1758 posts
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:27 am to
All electric
No worries
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5246 posts
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:08 am to
And the new Freon coming out is propane and is combustible. This scares me.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
4992 posts
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:50 am to
This is absolutely horrible. When I was a kid in Baton Rouge, a hot water heater blew up a house I think in the Goodwood area, back in the 70s if I remember correctly. Maybe someone here knows more about that? Think it killed the family or a kid or something.
Posted by tarynsmith24
Member since Aug 2024
1 post
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:59 am to
It was my friends sister in law and her 2 children visiting family that had just moved in and were helping unpack the house. My friends nephew is the one who passed, it’s a terrible situation. So no more guessing and making accusations please.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 9/1/24 at 12:15 pm to
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