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5-year and 30-year Treasury yields invert for the first time since 2006
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:55 am
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:55 am
This trend tends to foreshadow an upcoming recession.
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5-year and 30-year Treasury yields invert for the first time since 2006, fueling recession fears
CNBC
U.S. 5-year and 30-year Treasury yields on Monday inverted for the first time since 2006, raising fears of a possible recession.
The yield on the 5-year Treasury note rose to 2.56%, while the 30-year yield fell to 2.55%. This is the first time the shorter-dated 5-year Treasury yield has risen above that of the longer-dated 30-year U.S. government bond since 2006 — just a couple of years before the Global Financial Crisis.
At its high of the session, the 5-year yield hit a high of 2.67%.
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Historically, the yield curve has inverted prior to recessions indicating their concern about the health of the economy.
“With the Fed set to hike into restrictive territory, the curve will invert,” said Seth Carpenter, chief global economist at Morgan Stanley. “As has always been the case in the past, markets will debate whether an inversion presages a recession. A policy mistake that causes a recession is clearly possible, but our baseline is that an inversion without a recession is more likely.”
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:58 am to goofball
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our baseline is that an inversion without a recession is more likely
Has never happened.
But, from the same guys behind the Morgan Stanley Fade so not surprising.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:59 am to goofball
well, that's not good, but hardly unexpected.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:02 am to goofball
WTF did my generation do to piss God off so much?
.com bust, terrorist attack, two wars, Great Recession, the 2016 riots, Covid, the 2020 riots, Joe Biden, a possible WW3, and now this.
At least the boomers had occasional 5-10 year stretches of relative normalcy.
.com bust, terrorist attack, two wars, Great Recession, the 2016 riots, Covid, the 2020 riots, Joe Biden, a possible WW3, and now this.
At least the boomers had occasional 5-10 year stretches of relative normalcy.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:05 am to member12
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WTF did my generation do to piss God off so much?
.com bust, terrorist attack, two wars, Great Recession, the 2016 riots, Covid, the 2020 riots, Joe Biden, a possible WW3, and now this.
At least the boomers had occasional 5-10 year stretches of relative normalcy.
Boomers have just as many examples, you're just not thinking of them.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:05 am to goofball
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but our baseline is that an inversion without a recession is more likely.”
My interpretation of this is this guy believes that the velocity of money will stay sufficiently high during this inflationary period to stave off a recession. It will feel like a recession but inflation will foster enough GDP growth to not meet the technical definition of a recession.
We shall see.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:07 am to goofball
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but our baseline is that an inversion without a recession is more likely
A recession is coming. Deal with it.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:08 am to goofball
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This trend tends to foreshadow an upcoming recession.
We’ll be lucky if what’s that’s coming is just a recession.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:09 am to goofball
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the health of the economy
Cough, cough
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:09 am to GetCocky11
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A recession is coming. Deal with it.
Exactly. “This time” is never different.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:09 am to member12
80s had the potential for nuclear war at any time, SnL crisis, soaring interest rates, farm foreclosures - there were some decent years in there, but it was pretty dicey most of the time. The 90s were the best time I recall, but even then, there were years where things got wonky. 2000s there was 9-11, the great recession, a couple of wars.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:11 am to goofball
It's good to finally have the adults back in the room again
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:11 am to goofball
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A policy mistake that causes a recession is clearly possible, but our baseline is that an inversion without a recession is more likely.”
What makes him say that is more likely? Hasn't history shown him to be wrong?
What am I missing?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
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My interpretation of this is this guy believes that the velocity of money will stay sufficiently high during this inflationary period to stave off a recession. It will feel like a recession but inflation will foster enough GDP growth to not meet the technical definition of a recession.
Oh we are trying to do what Japan did since the 1990s.
Because that worked so well.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:20 am to efrad
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Boomers have just as many examples, you're just not thinking of them.
Yea murder of student protesters at Kent State(Vietnam) and Southern University(Civil Rights) come to mind.
Selma
JFK/MLK
17% mortgage Interest rates
OPEC Oil Crisis.
Vietnam
Cuban Missile Crisis/Bay Of Pigs
Cyanide in Tylenol
Summer of Sam
Aids
Yea This wasn't very well thought out on his part as 61-82 was quite tumultuous.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 9:23 am
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:20 am to goofball
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5-year and 30-year Treasury yields invert for the first time since 2006
Just smack’em on the arse and they’ll pop back to where they’re supposed to be.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:34 am to goofball
Wait, you can’t print trillions of free dollars without causing massive inflation and a recession? I’m shocked. SHOCKED!
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