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re: 3 dead, 2 missing after group of tubers go over North Carolina dam

Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26554 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Seems pretty easy to survive from that height

Has nothing to do with the height. You get pinned in the hydraulic behind the dam and drown.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148154 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:56 pm to
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That picture makes escape process look less likely especially with panic and group of people together.
and the fact thwy were probably drinking
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10259 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:05 pm to
That so many folks look at it and see a pretty mass of water going over some cement IS the problem. The phrase Low Head Dam needs to instill horror, but it doesn't.

Get enough air in water, and you won't float the way you expect to. And that leads to panic.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31175 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:44 pm to
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wouldn't go in these waters, Duke Energy spilt ash in them years ago.

Also gators came ashore from the ocean here and a big arse snake.


Are you on drugs, perhaps?
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:49 pm to
Sad, really sad. They were all having fun tubing down the river. They woke up in the morning, ate breakfast, slipped an inflated tube over their head, jumped in the river, and by sunset they were dead.

May they R.I.P. Prayers for the families of the victims.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 6:52 pm
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15000 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:57 pm to
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Are you on drugs, perhaps?


He’s right about the coal ash. Can’t comment on the other stuff lol
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22501 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:07 pm to
Wtf 9 members of the same family? Sure I get the underwater is like a washing matching, but they were in tubes right? And there were signs…who goes over a damn like that all together without knowing the bottom when there are signs…. Damnit people, feel terrible for the family but this is a colossal screw up by whoever planned this.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172499 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:51 pm to
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Sad, really sad.
quote:

They woke up in the morning, ate breakfast
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and by sunset they were dead.

Well that’s happened to almost everyone who has died
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10259 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:54 pm to
I saw a streaming headline that one of the missing has been recovered alive.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28540 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Seems pretty easy to survive from that height


I believe the river was at flood stage with a lot of current.

Wonder if they went over the damn and got held under.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102496 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:29 pm to
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You'd think the fact people were calling it a "drowning machine" would lead officials to put a railing or blockade of some sort on top that prevented this.


A barrier would catch debris and lead to other problems.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157531 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:38 pm to
No, I wish. It is in the news here every year since about 2012 of gators coming out of the atlantic ocean all over NC's coasts and in North Myrtle Beach and I think Folly Island.

In the past few weeks a non sea snake (I think they said rattle) also did and made the local news.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 9:01 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157531 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:41 pm to
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I believe the river was at flood stage with a lot of current.
We were no burn orders dry then got a lot of rain. Also 92 and humid as ya'll get.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157531 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:55 pm to
UPDATE

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EDEN, N.C. (AP) — Searchers combed a North Carolina river Friday for two missing tubers after a family on a recreational float went over a dam, resulting in three deaths and the rescue of four people from the water.

The group of nine, all believed to be part of the same family, was floating down the Dan River on inflatable tubes and went over a dam that’s about 8 feet (2.5 meters) high next to a Duke Energy plant Wednesday night, Rockingham County Emergency Services Director Rodney Cates told reporters.

A Duke Energy employee who saw some of the tubers called the situation in to 911 on Thursday afternoon, and four were rescued that day. Three tubers’ bodies were also found Thursday.

Cates said that the rescued tubers spent the night floating in the water near the dam before they were found clinging to the tubes. He said they managed to stay afloat for approximately 19 hours, describing them as “very, very fatigued” when they were found. The four were taken to a hospital and were expected to survive.

Cates said the search for the two still missing was suspended late Friday afternoon and would resume Saturday. He said he was still optimistic the two missing tubers could be found alive. Earlier in the day, rescue personnel were seen hauling rafts toward the water Friday at a staging area in Eden, north of Greensboro near the Virginia state line.

“We’re still positive and optimistic, but we’ll see how things go tomorrow,” Cates told reporters.

Rockingham County Sheriff Sam Page identified those rescued as Reuben Villano, 35; and children Eric, 14, and Irene, 18, all of Eden. Also rescued were Karlos Villano of LaPorte, Indiana. A news release from the sheriff’s office didn’t indicate how Karlos Villano was related to the others, except to say he was a visiting relative.

The sheriff’s office identified the victims as Bridish Crawford, 27, and Antonio Ramon, 30, of Eden; and Sophie Wilson, 14, also of LaPorte, Indiana.

Still missing are Teresa Villano, 35, and Isiah Crawford, 7, both from Eden, the sheriff’s office said.

First responders indicated the survivors were caught in fast-moving water near the dam when they were found, according to recordings of scanner traffic on broadcastify.com.

First responders could be heard over public safety radio ordering boats and other swift water rescue equipment to the area shortly after the 911 call came in around 3:15 p.m. Thursday.

“We’re taking a call on the Dan River at the dam near the Duke Energy plant. Caller is advising five tubers … went over the dam,” one person says.

A rescuer says on the recording that some of the tubers were stuck near the dam because of the pull of water flowing over it.

“They’re on that side … at the abutment for the dam. And they’re all caught in the pull. If you can come over … we can probably pull them out pretty good, hopefully,” the rescuer can be heard saying.

Cates told reporters Friday that debris and rocks in the river can puncture tubes or rafts, so it’s important for people to wear life preservers. He said it wasn’t clear if any of the nine were using life preservers.

“The current of the river makes it very hard to navigate, even for the most experienced swimmers. So we strongly encourage people to wear some type of personal floatation device in addition to the tube they’re in,” he said.

He said it’s not unusual for people to float the river on tubes or rafts in the area, but most get out and walk around the dam, which is marked by a sign.

Duke Energy spokesman Jeff Brooks said the employee who called 911 to report the tubers wasn’t available for an interview.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65886 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:11 pm to
I know the Dan River. Its not a very intimidating river, but for some reason, it always seems muddier than others. It probably isn't very deep, so I imagine thise that drowned probably couldn't swim well and were knocked at least woozy when they hit the hard surface below and then got caught in the "undertow."
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3676 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
26400 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:18 pm to
Nuch bigger waterfall but some hikers slipped into a waterfall at Yosemite a few years back and the undertow kept them trapped under the rocks at the bottom until the waterflow slowed at the end of the summer.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6769 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:53 pm to
Like most of you I have trouble understanding how an 8 feet drop into water would cause that kind of damage. Hell I used to jump 30 feet or more off of an old rail bridge into a river as a kid.

However, I am in Myrtle Beach this weekend and I have witnessed a large flock of beached whales and perhaps they have migrated to the river system in North Carolina.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7893 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:05 pm to
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Like most of you I have trouble understanding how an 8 feet drop into water would cause that kind of damage. Hell I used to jump 30 feet or more off of an old rail bridge into a river as a kid.


Maybe read the rest of the thread and understand a bit more?
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9694 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:24 pm to
Probably not the best river to tube on honestly
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