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re: 2 Texas children die in hot car (....and here we go)

Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120068 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

My 2 year old niece cannot open the door from the outside. Nor can she lock the door. She also cannot buckle her own car seat. Much less that of another kid.



i find it hard to believe kids that age (1 & 2 years old) were able to accomplish everything they had to accomplish, to put themselves in a situation the mother claims they put themselves in.

Like someone mentioned, there is a difference between a child who just turned 2 years old and a child that is about to turn 3, but I still can't imagine they would be able to open the car door, climb in the vehicle, close the door, lock the door.

There is just too many questions. Yes the mother will have to live with it for the rest of her life, but I can't imagine a mother, in her right mind, would let something like this happen. It is a sad situation.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:59 pm to
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That is certainly the question. WTF?



Not much of a question. Anyone that believes that's true has no business doing investigative work.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31892 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:18 pm to
car door is pretty heavy and opening a door handle is pretty high...

unless that 2 year old is almost 3, yeah no.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:20 pm to
Her story sounds pretty implausible to me.

How hot was it? How long would it take for the kids to die under the weather conditions at the time of the incident? I don't think this happens in five or ten minutes. If her story is true, which I doubt, the children would had to have been unsupervised for a longer period of time than is safe. You can hardly turn your back on a walking two year old. They'll be into something in a heartbeat.

The keys and phone detail really sounds odd to me. Not that the kids would play with them, but that they managed to get into the car with them. When she found them, if her keys weren't where she left them, the window should have been broken in under a minute. It shouldn't have significantly delayed rescuing the kids. Odd detail.

If I had to guess, she carried the groceries inside and put the milk in the fridge or whatever, then got distracted by a phone call or text or something. She later realizes the kids have been in the car for 45 minutes (or however long) and panics, so she makes up this stupid story. If this happened, she would have been way better off by coming clean and admitting she fricked up. (Or not talking to the cops at all. But the fake story is going to cause her problems.)

Or, on the other hand, maybe she was sick of being a mother, concocted this ridiculous alibi, and murdered them.

For those who think nothing like this could ever happen to them, I'll leave this example. A physician was supposed to drop his young daughter off at preschool. His wife usually did it, but could not that day. The father loads the child in the car and the kid goes to sleep. The father goes on autopilot and drives straight to his train station, as he's done every morning for years. Locks up the car, goes to the platform and gets on his train. A couple of minutes later, he realizes the child is still in the car. He immediately calls 911, gets off at the next station and returns to his car. The cops had already got the child out of the car when he got back. She was fine. She'd only been in there about 10 or 12 minutes and it was early, so it wasn't hot. Obviously, the father was very distressed, but was fortunate that his brain fart didn't turn into a tragedy.

Of course, he got grilled by the cops, but it soon became pretty obvious that the guy had no ill intent. He just fricked up. He ended up doing some media interviews to raise awareness about the problem. He was smart, successful, and considered by all who knew him to be a loving and attentive parent. But it happened to him.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 4:39 am to
I'm t happens

We should pray for the parents. I can't imagine what they are going through
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69517 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:20 am to
She was negligent and left her kids in the car which is a crime. The fact that she concocted a story to try to cover up or "excuse" her negligence makes me believe she is more worried about the consequences she faces rather than the fact she just lost 2 children. Some posters have been correct that studies have shown it's possible to forget you had your kids in the car without being a lazy POS (would rather just leave them in the car while they run in to grocery store so they don't have to tote them around for example).

Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5723 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:31 am to
My 2 year old drove my car, not once, but twice. First time crawled out of his car seat, climbed over the seat, and put it in reverse. All while my wife was standing in front of the car talking. The 2nd time he got a stool, pushed it to the fridge, got the keys down (we wanted to keep them away from him). He put the key in, turned it to acc, dropped the lever down and out the driveway he went. Wrecked it that time. Toddlers can get away from you fast.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:36 am to
No idea what happened here but some two year olds are more than capable of getting in a car and closing the door, what I am doubting is the 1 year old climbing in after her.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:46 am to
quote:

My 2 year old drove my car, not once, but twice. First time crawled out of his car seat, climbed over the seat, and put it in reverse. All while my wife was standing in front of the car talking. The 2nd time he got a stool, pushed it to the fridge, got the keys down (we wanted to keep them away from him). He put the key in, turned it to acc, dropped the lever down and out the driveway he went. Wrecked it that time. Toddlers can get away from you fast.



My younger brother managed to climb into a giant Mercury station wagon, crank it, put it into gear and drive across the street into a ditch at two years old, lmfao at the ignorance in this thread.
Posted by geauxscott
Member since Nov 2007
941 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 6:53 am to
As a new father of 6 month old twins this is one of my biggest nightmares. Unfortunately I'm reminded of how real this nightmare can be way to often by reading stories like these. I drop my girls off at day car 2-3 times a week and after dropping them off and heading to work I catch myself checking the back seat several times even though I know I dropped them off. I feel very confident that I am aware enough to not ever have this happen to me, but reading articles like this reinforces it to an almost paranoia point.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68770 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 7:32 am to
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The brain is a funny thing.

Go read the stats on it. There really is very little difference across numerous demographics.

It doesn't seem to matter your race, education level, socioeconomic status.

However, one of the most common ways it occurs is when people have a change in their daily routine. Their brain goes into auto pilot, and sleeping kids get forgotten about.

This is really tragic, and shouldn't be lumped in with idiots who intentionally leave kids in the car to run an errand.
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I know pointing out facts is unpopular in a thread like this, but leaving kids in the car is prevalent enough that they are making alarms on baby seats standard equipment. With that said, this lady's story sounds a bit suspect
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12451 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Go ahead and call parents that give a shite about their kids liars if it makes you feel better. Maybe you are just a dumb arse that forgets what is suppose to be the most important thing in the world to you.


There have been studies on this and it has to do with a lot of things that have little to do with the amount of "caring." Sometimes it's a terrible parent making a choice, sometimes it's a good parent falling victim to our brains shortcomings


As to this story.... it's a hard pill to swallow. In order to buy in that it's not 100% her fault you have to take a lot of jumps. If the older is closer to 3 and well developed it's not quite as crazy but still a real long shot and you still have to answer what she was up to through all this.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12451 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:10 am to
quote:

can't imagine they would be able to open the car door, climb in the vehicle, close the door, lock the door.


I guess I can see a kid getting in and closing it --- and maybe accidentally locking it with the fob and not getting how to unlock it after?

Still it's taking the kids being aware enough to string together wanting to take the phone to play with, the keys as mimicking the routine getting in the car for fun and accidentally locking the door. Even if the kid would be capable to enact that with instructions from a parent it seems very much like a long shot to do it solo while instructing a 1 year old themselves.

And that's before even answering where's mom
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:55 am to
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So for 1-2 years....your daughter never left your sight?


Yep.. when I am at work my wife sure as shite does. If she didn't... then she for damn sure wouldn't be my wife


So what did ya'll do when you slept?

Did you take turns sleeping and keeping watch on the kid?


Also, wasn't it a little awkward watchng the kid while you had sex?
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:03 am to
Her story has one glaring flaw that will be her undoing. This one detail is so impossible that it destroys all of her credibility:
quote:

when she found them, one of the children had her cellphone

No woman is ever without her cell phone for more than 5 minutes.

I rest my case, your Honor.
Posted by Happy_wife85
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
127 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:28 am to
I know a person w stage 4 cancer whose toddler got locked in the car and died. She was super tired and sick from chemo and feel asleep. Her husband was focused on the other children and then toddler slipped out of the house unnoticed.

I keep my car doors locked, keys up high, and house alarm set to instant all day long.
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1614 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Her story is bullshite. She left her kids in the car. It's probably innocent and she forgot them, but that's a fatal mistake, and she's going to have to live with that

Yep. No way a two and one year-old were able to take her keys, get the car open, climb in the car, then figure out how to lock the car. Kids just aren't able to do those things at that age.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14799 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:29 pm to
Another Texas story. Again, a 1 and 2 year old left in car for 15 hours (this time on purpose).
LINK
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:55 pm to
Let me guess, all the shitty parents are saying "It could happen to ANYONE leaving kids in the car!"
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18660 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:55 pm to
What if it is a minvan with the automatic side doors.
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