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re: 2 people die from measles in Pennsylvania

Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46755 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:56 am to
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Baseless claims, ridiculous "facts";


There's no way it started in a Lab.

Two weeks to flatten the curve.

Cloth masks work.

I can keep going if you'd like.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109023 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:58 am to
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There is no privacy issue giving statistics on race, sex, ethnicity, vaccine status, etc.

Which means it's not for privacy reasons.


For general data released publicly, no.

When you're releasing a much smaller set of data that could easily identify the individuals, that's a different deal. It's releasing under the threshold of what's minimally necessary under HIPAA.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13698 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:59 am to
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The anti-public health movement in right-wing America will make Americans the disease carrying people that others keep out. That is the fact


The only fact is that there are consequences for lambasting the world with a hybrid flu, quarantining children and families to their homes, and forcing a technology based "vaccine" on us all. Did you think there would be none?

Last i checked, while the right wing shares culpability, Fauci and his cohorts aren't right wing. Plenty of blame to be placed but not at the foot of Americans standing their ground against medical fallacies. We were duped and many refuse to allow it to happen again even if overreacting about vaccines. Many will never trust science without pause again. And rightfully. It's a subject(all fields) where untruth, or flat out wrongs, have become the bar. On par with history in terms of grains of salt.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
4025 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:15 am to
So
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67886 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:30 am to
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While the left will certainly jump on this as a way to shite on Trump, I'm not sure if your framing is entirely fair, either. No, those changes have not gone into effect and no, they don't reschedule the measles vaccine. However, the rate of "religious exemptions" granted for vaccinations has more than doubled, from 2% to 4.2% in the last five years. I don't think it's reasonable to say that the populist right in the US gets a full pass on that issue.


Have Amish people ever gotten vaccines? This would be the only relevant question here.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:52 am to
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Have Amish people ever gotten vaccines? This would be the only relevant question here.

It's a relevant question, but not the only relevant question, in my opinion. For good reasons or bad, there will always be people who can't or won't be vaccinated against a particular malady. The smaller the unvaccinated population is, the safer they are. As that population grows, they become progressively less safe.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40407 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 12:02 pm to
Just Google RFK and backtrack.



He never should've been confirmed.


Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5232 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Just Google RFK and backtrack.


RFK Jr admitted in filed court documents that he had a brain worm that ate so much of his brain that it diminished his ability to work

He also doesn’t even believe in germ theory

And he’s the secretary of health. This administration is a joke
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20353 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 12:09 pm to
I’m going to guess they were illegals.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67886 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 12:10 pm to
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It's a relevant question, but not the only relevant question, in my opinion. For good reasons or bad, there will always be people who can't or won't be vaccinated against a particular malady. The smaller the unvaccinated population is, the safer they are. As that population grows, they become progressively less safe.


Depends on the vaccine, apparently. Remember when we were told the COVID shots were a vaccination?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 12:47 pm to
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Depends on the vaccine, apparently. Remember when we were told the COVID shots were a vaccination?

Sure. Kind of a weird non-sequitur in a thread about measles, though
Posted by alexahet
Everywhere
Member since Apr 2010
3247 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 12:57 pm to
Anti-vaxxers are made up of white women. Crunchy, stupid white women
Posted by alexahet
Everywhere
Member since Apr 2010
3247 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:02 pm to
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We were duped and many refuse to allow it to happen again even if overreacting about vaccines. Many will never trust science without pause again.


Except nobody is asking you to trust a new vaccine. People expect you to trust a proven vaccine (MMR) that has been around for over 50 years. Hell, the first measles vaccine is like 60 years old - well before any recent administration had any say in who/how/what vaccines should be recommended.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178361 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:03 pm to
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If that's where the deaths were, they have the largest Amish population in the US.

How would measles spontaneously occur in an Amish community? A smelly immigrant brought it up there.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36680 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36680 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:10 pm to
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. The anti-public health movement in right-wing America will make Americans the disease carrying people that others keep out.


The scientific method isn't a suggestion.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132697 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Anti-vaxxers are made up of white women. Crunchy, stupid white women


Eh, check the poli board

Plenty of proud white men that dont vaxx their kids
Posted by alexahet
Everywhere
Member since Apr 2010
3247 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:18 pm to
I'll take your word for it. The poli board gives me the digital equivalent of measles.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:33 pm to
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Except nobody is asking you to trust a new vaccine. People expect you to trust a proven vaccine (MMR) that has been around for over 50 years. Hell, the first measles vaccine is like 60 years old - well before any recent administration had any say in who/how/what vaccines should be recommended.

I think this is my biggest frustration with the recent "anti-science" trend. I have no issue with people questioning everything they are told; my issue is that most people don't actually take the hundreds upon hundreds of hours that would be required to educate themselves on the relevant subjects. They just jump to "well, if I can't believe them on everything, then I don't believe them on anything". Now, does that mean that they will occasionally be right when everyone else was wrong? Sure. But it means they will be wrong when everyone else is right far, far more often.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58295 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:34 pm to
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To protect the privacy of the patients and their families, the department of health said it will not release any additional details that could lead to the identification of the individuals.


Wanna bet they were illegals?
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