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Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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All self inflicted
Humor me...explain your stance.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
I fully support anyone unhappy with their situation changing it to better suit their wants and needs.
Public education is not designed to make the vast majority of employees wealthy. I imagine there are plenty people getting paid way too much, which is another issue, but when your income comes from tax payers, many of whom don't even use public schools, and you have 3.5 million teachers to pay, excluding administrators, what exactly do you expect? You're not working in a revenue generating industry. Nor are you in one with a particularly high barrier to entry, as far as professions go.
Public education is not designed to make the vast majority of employees wealthy. I imagine there are plenty people getting paid way too much, which is another issue, but when your income comes from tax payers, many of whom don't even use public schools, and you have 3.5 million teachers to pay, excluding administrators, what exactly do you expect? You're not working in a revenue generating industry. Nor are you in one with a particularly high barrier to entry, as far as professions go.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
Good teachers, just like good employees are going to retire early than put up with the world we live in now. This should not be a surprise to normal thinking people.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Who's going to teach your snowflakes then?
The private school who teaches her now. I just dropped 17k on my little “snowflake’s” education, your children are going to work for her. Presumably some sort of yard work.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:12 pm to PacoPicopiedra
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Except, when it comes down to it they don't really give a shite. Since the CDC changed their recommendations, our district now requires the 5 day quarantine for employees but students still have to quarantine for 10 days. Why is this? Do children carry Covid for a longer period of time or do they really just need employees back sooner so they don't run into staffing shortages? Makes no sense.
Our school currently has a 5 day quarantine if you’re positive. Full stop. If you’re symptom free, you’re good to come back after that time. If you’re in the same household you can go to school for that 5 days with a mask.
I’m not giant on the masks, but it’s not irrational compared to the 10 day rules.
When I found out other schools in our area were keeping entire households home for 10 days, I lost my mind.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:20 pm to Philzilla2k
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now. I just dropped 17k on my little “snowflake’s” education,
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Philzilla2k
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:21 pm to 4cubbies
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where are these mythical teachers who get 3 months off for summer
They only get June and July. They report back Aug 1. But when my wife was a teacher, she will tell you that she didn't do jack shite during the summer.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
Good for them. I don’t understand why anyone would want to be a teacher or a cop. Low pay, tons of stress, and always a thankless job on social media.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Half of this board would quit teaching a couple days in with what public schools teachers put up with.
And every single teacher I ever had would quit by lunch time doing what I did for 40 years. And you are questioning peoples logic in this thread frickin tard
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:32 pm to elprez00
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Most of the teachers he saw bitching about “how many hours they spent working on lesson plans” were doing nothing but gossiping and complaining after school and most likely waited until late night before planning their days.
Wife said the same thing about her co-workers. She would leave by 3:30 unless it was her duty week. Fridays she stayed and did all lessons plans for the following week. Sometimes she didn't leave until 9pm, but her weekends were free to do whatever she wanted.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:36 pm to Rhino5
My fiancé is a middle school teacher in a very red county in SC. She is miserable, despite teaching being her dream profession, and is making a change at the end of the school year to an ESOL position with less students and a different school. The issues I see for teachers now:
The administration at her current school (I think it’s like this at a lot of schools) is horrible. Her principal is a borderline idiot. They keep putting more and more stupid crap on the teachers that has zero to do with teaching. Which I think is really coming from the county administration. It’s a lot of “over educated” left thinking women that think everything has to be micromanaged.
I don’t think pay is actually too low. She has great benefits that people don’t account for (very low health insurance costs). They need to make the pay system more “incentivized” were high performers get bonuses. This is one issue my fiancé has, her students typically outperform averages/expectations on standardized testing, yet she doesn’t get anything from it. Everyone remembers the good teachers they had… reward those teachers with bonuses.
COVID has made the students really dumb. Kids just straight up not doing work anymore. It’s really sad what we as a society did to kids.
One of the things with Hispanic kids (why she’s switching to ESOL)… a lot of them actually do their work because they don’t want to get their parents/family in trouble and deported.
The administration at her current school (I think it’s like this at a lot of schools) is horrible. Her principal is a borderline idiot. They keep putting more and more stupid crap on the teachers that has zero to do with teaching. Which I think is really coming from the county administration. It’s a lot of “over educated” left thinking women that think everything has to be micromanaged.
I don’t think pay is actually too low. She has great benefits that people don’t account for (very low health insurance costs). They need to make the pay system more “incentivized” were high performers get bonuses. This is one issue my fiancé has, her students typically outperform averages/expectations on standardized testing, yet she doesn’t get anything from it. Everyone remembers the good teachers they had… reward those teachers with bonuses.
COVID has made the students really dumb. Kids just straight up not doing work anymore. It’s really sad what we as a society did to kids.
One of the things with Hispanic kids (why she’s switching to ESOL)… a lot of them actually do their work because they don’t want to get their parents/family in trouble and deported.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:55 pm to Sharkboi69
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The administration at her current school (I think it’s like this at a lot of schools) is horrible. Her principal is a borderline idiot.
This seems like a common theme when performance is discussed.
Where are all these unproductive, awful, borderline idiots in school admins coming from? Like what were they before a school admin? What is their educational background? In most other professions, management typically comes from the pool of personnel they manage, and theoretically they are the high performers from that pool. I assume it's not the case that admin personnel are former high performing teachers since they are apparently mostly idiots that are causing all the problems in public schools despite teachers'best efforts. But I honestly don't know.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:58 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I know this board loves to hate teachers
Not sure about that. Most acknowledge that good teachers are worth their weight in gold. Most also acknowledge that are far too few good teachers. And teachers unions are the worst, kids come last.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
Alvin ISD south of Houston starts 1st year teachers at $59,500.
Alvin ISD
10-month contract in Houston ISD gets a first-year 56,800.
HISD
Goose Creek ISD (Baytown) gets you $59,500 first-year.
Goose Creek
These are not poverty wages.
Alvin ISD
10-month contract in Houston ISD gets a first-year 56,800.
HISD
Goose Creek ISD (Baytown) gets you $59,500 first-year.
Goose Creek
These are not poverty wages.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:01 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Or maybe just focus on teaching... not teaching, lunch duty, after school duty, breaking up fights in the hallways, filling out reports for LEAP stats
Not to mention that one student can start a rumor and ruin the teacher’s life and career.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The "entire summer" in most cases is less than 8 weeks
Most other regular jobs don’t get 8 weeks vacation a year.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Who's going to teach your snowflakes then?
For people with any means it will be private schools. Also, Small groups will be taught by a Tudor type people. More one on one, cheaper and way better teaching. It is becoming more popular after Covid.
For public schools, this has been a slow erosion since they have completely removed ability to discipline from teachers and admins. Dems policies almost invariably make life worse for poor (making them reliant on handouts or taking away criminal punishment or taking away discipline in schools), but they continue to vote for dems.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:05 pm to memphis tiger
I’m a teacher and not one that complains. I knew what I was getting into when I signed up. Last year was tough…. Hell we had Covid, a hurricane, and ice storm. Then this year the expectations from central offices and the state are crazy high with the students basically getting 2 years off of school. They’re way behind, and are just now believing they won’t be given a D and moved on. It’s going to take a few more years to get everything back to “normal”.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
We pulled our kids out of school when we learned they were only being taught evolution theory in science while intelligent design wasn’t even mentioned.
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