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Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:22 pm to 4cubbies
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The reason people tend to ignore teachers is because they are predominantly women.
No, that's just the reason the profession in general complains more than most.
I appreciate teachers a great deal. In fact, I pay taxes to support teachers my kids will never use and tuition to pay the ones they do use. I can't think of any other profession that expects that plus a guilty conscious because the custodians of those funds (i.e. state and local governments) can't figure out a way to pay their employees more from the revenue they already collect. The solution is to abolish public schools and let the market do its thing. But not many people are advocating for that.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:24 pm to PacoPicopiedra
Well said! Thanks for standing up for us… no one understands until they’re in the classroom.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
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45% said they want pay incentives (retention bonus, pay raise)
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And it’s not even about money.
WUT?
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:26 pm to elprez00
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Most of the teachers he saw bitching about “how many hours they spent working on lesson plans” were doing nothing but gossiping and complaining after school and most likely waited until late night before planning their days.
This has been true in my case as well. I work at the elementary level, mostly women at this level, and typically they spend their down time visiting.
I spend that time getting any paperwork or planning done, and being in special education there is a lot of paperwork. I usually get out everyday at around 4:00 unless there's a meeting or something going on.
I don't usually have to take my work home with me except for stressing out about something one of my autistic students did in school that day and trying to figure out how to help them. Lot's of productive time is wasted.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:28 pm to elprez00
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It was stressful at times, mostly brought on by administration micromanaging every little nuance of the teaching experience.
The difference between competent administration and incompetent administration is night and day. Luckily, administrators tend to shuffle or be shuffled around so if you fall on a bad one it's not liable to last. And if it does the market is such you should be able to change.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
“Teachers are heroes”. 
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:33 pm to Proximo
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When they invoke Covid as a reason they want to quit, especially fricking omicron, their argument loses all validity
I think MOST teachers don’t give two shits about actually catching omicron, what pisses them off is all the bullshite safety measures like some schools still enforcing social distancing, forcing sterilization between classes, contact tracing, mandatory quarantine for close contacts if you’re unvaccinated, etc.
I also know that teachers are not getting supported by school administrations in general. A lot of principals and other administrative positions that no longer teach classes are on absolute power trips and are borderline running dictatorships. Some of these “leaders” are absolutely abusing their authority and I think this has a lot to do with teacher burnout these last 2 years.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:36 pm to PacoPicopiedra
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This has been true in my case as well. I work at the elementary level, mostly women at this level, and typically they spend their down time visiting.
The more teachers realize this, the happier a profession it will be.
And I’m out by 3:15. frick that 4pm noise.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:37 pm to BluegrassBelle
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They’re now expected to feed, clothe, and teach kids what they should be learning at home. Most people would be like frick all that. If teaching was just teaching the content and not being expected to pick up society’s slack it’d be much different.
This is 100% on Democrat and Progressive politicians incentivizing single mother households and Conservatives requiring mandatory minimum sentences for non violent drug crimes.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:38 pm to GRTiger
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and 35% want less work. It's
If your boss asked you to do 20% more work with no additional pay, what would your response be?
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:40 pm to udtiger
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Slash administration and hire more teachers/aides
This guy 100% gets it.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:40 pm to Jcorye1
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Pay the good ones more
Yes
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fire the shitty ones.
Sure, but who do you replace them with?
Unless you make some changes... you are just firing shitty teachers and replacing them with other shitty teachers.
Here's the facts.
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH ADULTS IN THIS COUNTRY WHO CAN BE GOOD TEACHERS AND ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR THE WAGES PROVIDED.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
Do away with public schools.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:43 pm to cssamerican
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The problem with pay stems from paying off time served rather than by how well you teach.
Agree, but how do you judge performance?
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
I work with college students, but can totally see why teachers have had enough.
It's some of the same issues: tons of administrative red tape, many students ranging from rude to disrespectful to delusional, administrators disconnected from reality of day-to-day life in the field, and students not listening to directions.
Now, teachers get tons of breaks, so I find it hard to feel too bad for them. But, having worked with a different student population, I much better understand why a teacher might say "Screw it" than I did before this job.
It's some of the same issues: tons of administrative red tape, many students ranging from rude to disrespectful to delusional, administrators disconnected from reality of day-to-day life in the field, and students not listening to directions.
Now, teachers get tons of breaks, so I find it hard to feel too bad for them. But, having worked with a different student population, I much better understand why a teacher might say "Screw it" than I did before this job.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
Teachers are the whiniest bunch out of any employee group
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:47 pm to broadhead
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Who requires that she works 50 hours during the summer and grade papers on her personal time?
Umm... that's what is required if you wan to do a good job.
They are on a block schedule... 4 classes a day. Teach 3... 1 of period.
"Off period" -
Monday - 504 meetings
Tuesday - Teacher Team meetings
Wednesday - No meetings
Thursday - Faculty or department meetings (rotates)
Friday - No Meetings
She has one duty assignment per day.
M/W/F - Lunch duty (1/2 lunch period)
T/Th - After school bus area duty
So her non-teaching clock time each weeek consists of"
30 min before first bell (kids are arriving into classrooms at this time)
20 min lunch 3 days a week
40 min lunch 2 days a week (one day is a meeting for a club she sponsors)
90 min off period 2x a week
30 min after school 3x a week (which is when she offers tutoring)
Add that up and that's not enough time to do what needs to be done to be prepared for class and to return papers.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:48 pm to Rebel
Or better yet consolidate all these tiny schools in rural areas. We have four public schools within 20 miles of each other in my county. Each of those schools has a principal, vice principal and a Superintendent, probably making 6 figures or close. If you combined them all they still wouldn’t even be as large as the biggest schools in the large cities.
Huge waste IMO
Huge waste IMO
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:49 pm to redneck hippie
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If you combined them all they still wouldn’t even be as large as the biggest schools in the large cities. Huge waste IMO
Public education in many parts of the country are run similarly to the S&WB in NOLA, a jobs program for overpaid yet under qualified administrators.
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