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162-year-old Guinness bottle found in shipwreck that could reveal original recipe
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:30 am
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Scientists are hoping to recreate the taste of Guinness as it was brewed in the 1860s after divers recovered a 162-year-old bottle from a shipwreck off the coast of England.
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The bottle, which dates back to 1864, was discovered by Belgian underwater photographer Stefan Panis while exploring a wreck off Dover. Researchers are now analyzing its contents to see if they can recover enough DNA from the beer to produce an authentic recreation of the original stout.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/162-year-old-guinness-bottle-found-in-shipwreck-that-could-reveal-original-recipe-3395804/
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Following the discovery, samples from the bottle were sent to microbiologists at KU Leuven University in Belgium for analysis, the BBC reported.
“There is always a chance that we can recover the complete DNA, and then we can do a small re-brew of the exact beer that was found in the 1860s,” Panis said.
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But there may be an even more intriguing possibility.
"There is a possibility that it's still drinkable. The question is if the sea water has come into the bottles through the corks.
"If not, most likely the beer would still be drinkable."
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In an Instagram post, Panis said, “We sent the bottle photos to the official Guinness club, and brewing historian Edward Bourke dropped this atomic info:
“That is bottled by Cameron Saunders of London… beer was sent over in Butts for bottling locally… There is something about keeping the bottles upside down as found because seawater ingress won’t happen in that position – lore from the Scotch wreck on Rathlin”
“Finding them upside down was the single secret to survival! Edward cited the SS Lochgarry wreck (1942). Upright bottles were ruined; upside-down bottles stayed perfect because the trapped air bubble creates a pressurized barrier blocking seawater.”
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 11:15 am
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:33 am to Shexter
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But there may be an even more intriguing possibility.
"There is a possibility that it's still drinkable. The question is if the sea water has come into the bottles through the corks.
"If not, most likely the beer would still be drinkable."
A lil sea water won't kill ya. I'd take a sip for sure.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:34 am to Shexter
Would be the best G split of all time.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:37 am to Shexter
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"If not, most likely the beer would still be drinkable."
Meanwhile Bud Light just rolling out of the factory is undrinkable.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:38 am to Shexter
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most likely the beer would still be drinkable
If there was an Irishman on that boat, that Guiness is already gone.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:38 am to Shexter
They should make car bombs with it
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:40 am to Shexter
someone will try and then create a recipe claiming original Who can say otherwise. Profit
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:40 am to Shexter
I prefer extra crispy anyway...
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:42 am to Shexter
Undoubtedly the Captain's last words were "hold my beer"
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:43 am to Shexter
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recover enough DNA from the beer to produce an authentic recreation of the original stout.
If it was any good why would the recipe become lost?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:46 am to Cheese Grits
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If there was an Irishman on that boat, that Guiness is already gone.
There's more down there
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He believes the bottle was part of a full case of 24, with many more potentially still hidden beneath the surrounding sand.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:54 am to Crawdaddy
Exactly where this is headed, but cool read nonetheless.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:55 am to LB84
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If it was any good why would the recipe become lost?
I'm sure the malt bill (recipe) hasn't changed much, if at all. Guiness began brewing in 1759. The bottle was from the 1860s. The brewery had been operating for about 100 years when this bottle was made.
What they probably mean is the DNA of the grains used back then, and how they differ from today's varieties.
They're gonna throw some wheat in the CRISPR, I guess.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:56 am to Shexter
Don't get me wrong: very cool. With that said, does Guinness not have this recipe sitting around somewhere?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:59 am to BitBuster
Like to know the depth it was at. Shallow would be less likely to be contaminated.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:09 am to Joshjrn
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does Guinness not have this recipe sitting around somewhere?
Extra Stout is supposed to be the original recipe
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Guinness Extra Stout is based on a beer first brewed in 1821, Ingredients Water Malted Barley Barley Roasted Barley Hops Yeast
Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:16 am to Drydock
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Like to know the depth it was at. Shallow would be less likely to be contaminated.
Looks like them shipping it upside down was what saved the beer. Air stayed in because of the glass.
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“That is bottled by Cameron Saunders of London… beer was sent over in Butts for bottling locally… There is something about keeping the bottles upside down as found because seawater ingress won’t happen in that position – lore from the Scotch wreck on Rathlin”
“Finding them upside down was the single secret to survival! Edward cited the SS Lochgarry wreck (1942). Upright bottles were ruined; upside-down bottles stayed perfect because the trapped air bubble creates a pressurized barrier blocking seawater.”
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