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158 years ago this evening, Stonewall Jackson was shot by his own men...

Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:05 am
After his magnum opus assault against the Union right flank on the second day of the Battle of Chancellorsville, Jackson scouted ahead of his own lines to see if there wasn't a way to press the attack in the gathering darkness. On his way back to his own lines, he and his entourage were mistaken for enemy cavalry and were fired upon. Jackson was hit and severely wounded. While his left arm required amputation, the other wounds were considered superficial and he was expected to survive. Fate would intervene, however. Jackson contracted pneumonia and on May 10, 1863, he succumbed to the illness.

The following photograph a "then and now" of the area in which Jackson was brought down by his own men:



Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:08 am to
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Jackson contracted pneumonia and on May 10, 1863, he succumbed to the illness.


Well, he did have comorbidities. Should've been more careful.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:10 am to
You just hate to see it.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:10 am to
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158 years ago this evening, Stonewall Jackson was shot by his own men...


This single event is the "Gavarilo Princip" moment of American History in my opinion.


If Stonewall doesnt die, the CSA wins the war (or at the very least, avoids defeat)

eta: had a brainfart and fricked up my dudes name.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 11:29 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:15 am to
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If Stonewall doesnt die, the CSA wins the war (or at the very least, avoids defeat)

Absurd! The CSA had no chance against the USA. The asymmetry in factories, etc meant it was a matter of time. Their ports were blockaded, and they had no means to sustain themselves in a protracted war.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:16 am to
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On his way back to his own lines, he and his entourage were mistaken for enemy cavalry and were fired upon.




Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:17 am to
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the "Giovanni Princip" moment



Wait, who?
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:18 am to
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This single event is the "Giovanni Princip" moment of American History in my opinion.


If Stonewall doesnt die, the CSA wins the war (or at the very least, avoids defeat)


Quoting it so we dont lose this nugget
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:18 am to
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Absurd! The CSA had no chance against the USA. The asymmetry in factories, etc meant it was a matter of time. Their ports were blockaded, and they had no means to sustain themselves in a protracted war.


Plus, their one submarine had 100 percent fatalities for its crew...on BOTH of its missions.
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
19294 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:18 am to
It always amazes me how some people can pass by an area unaware of the historical significance that place has in history. Like the white car in that photo, they may not even know that’s where a huge moment in the civil war occurred. I’m sure I’m guilty of this as well.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:19 am to
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Wait, who?


Well he at least got the last name right.
Posted by Donkus
Shreveport
Member since Feb 2013
585 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:20 am to
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If Stonewall doesnt die, the CSA wins the war


I'm not a Civil War buff at all, but even I know this is a dumb take.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
6404 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:25 am to
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Jackson contracted pneumonia and on May 10, 1863, he succumbed to the illness


You mean COVID-1863
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:29 am to
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If Stonewall doesnt die...
It would have been interesting to see how he responded during the first day of Gettysburg. Would he have given Lee a tactical advantage that was lost by his other commanders, particularly Ewell and AP Hill.

That was the whole point to the Pennsylvania campaign, to force the North to sue for peace.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:34 am to
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158 years ago this evening, Stonewall Jackson was shot by his own men...


COVID death.
Posted by White Devil
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:38 am to
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It would have been interesting to see how he responded during the first day of Gettysburg. Would he have given Lee a tactical advantage that was lost by his other commanders, particularly Ewell and AP Hill.

That was the whole point to the Pennsylvania campaign, to force the North to sue for peace.

Lee made the biggest blunder of Gettysburg, and his entire military career.

Pickett's Charge was a suicide charge that cost Lee an entire division.

When told to regroup his division. Pickett replied, "General, I have no division."

George Pickett never forgave Lee. Until the day he died he said, "that old man slaughtered my division."
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1120 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:42 am to
Agree, Jackson takes the high ground day one at Gettysburg. The battle goes differently. Maybe the South gets the yankees to the negotiating table. It is not a certainty but interesting to think about. No doubt had the South won we would look a lot more like the founding fathers intended.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64952 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:45 am to
The Battle of Gettysburg was effectively over when Slocum's Twelfth Corps successfully counter-attacked against the men of Richard Ewell's Corps on the morning of July 3. The Union men pushed Ewell's men off the ground they had taken the evening before.

Pickett's Charge, from a strategic and operational perspective, was anti-climatic.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:47 am to
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If Stonewall doesnt die, the CSA wins the war (or at the very least, avoids defeat)


bitch please
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:52 am to
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If Stonewall doesnt die, the CSA wins the war (or at the very least, avoids defeat)
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