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re: 155 years ago today....Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant

Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:19 am to
The North pretty effectively demonstrated that it had plenty of control over resources necessary to maintain industrial/economic/military power. They weren't the ones hurting for resources and needing outside intervention to win.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71122 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:20 am to
It's amazing he survived given how severe the wound was. The doctor didn't even want to work on him because he thought to do so was futile. But Chamberlain's younger brother held a gun to him and made him at least try to save his life.

Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:27 am to
Many people today are too quick to deal in absolutes. Would anyone question this Marine's "loyalty" to America? This was taken on Okinawa during WW2.

I sure as hell would not.


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63585 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:30 am to
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Many people today are too quick to deal in absolutes. Would anyone question this Marine's "loyalty" to America? This was taken on Okinawa during WW2.


If a marine did that today, 75 years later? Yes, yes they would.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:32 am to
That would've fricked everything that much harder. Even the wehrmacht turned down that idea a century later with a

Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:38 am to
The Civil War did not necessarily set Marxism-Socialism into motion in this country (though FDR probably did). I do think it’s clear we are headed towards Marxism from the top in the next decade though (or as soon as the democrats control congress and the WH).
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:45 am to
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You don't have to use today's standards. There was an abolitionist movement at the time and a war fought over it, so the many standards at the time thought it was unjust and inhumane

Not to mention, that the reason a lot of European countries didn't provide any support to the Confederacy was precisely because the act of slavery was viewed as morally deficient even during that time - or so I've read.
Posted by oleheat
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:06 pm to
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f a marine did that today, 75 years later? Yes, yes they would.




That's been done in every war since the civil war- and isn't going to stop, anytime soon.


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63585 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:10 pm to
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That's been done in every war since the civil war-


k.

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isn't going to stop, anytime soon.


Oh, I bet it will.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90515 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:15 pm to
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He died at age 85, due to complications from wounds received at Petersburg.
Yep lived with a lot of pain all those years.
Posted by CockCommander
Haha
Member since Feb 2014
2897 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:16 pm to
frick slavery and frick the Confederacy.
Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Oh, I bet it will.


Uh huh.


And LSU will choose another mascot, too- because "Fighting Tigers" just brings back too many memories of things none of us actually lived through.






Posted by CockCommander
Haha
Member since Feb 2014
2897 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:21 pm to
Every marine in that photo is white

SHOCKING
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63585 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Uh huh.


Are you the least bit cognizant of the world in which we live?

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And LSU will choose another mascot, too- because "Fighting Tigers" just brings back too many memories of things none of us actually lived through.



Oh for frick's sake.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38327 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:34 pm to
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That's been done in every war since the civil war- and isn't going to stop, anytime soon
I remember the shite storm over this one:

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25507 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Are you the least bit cognizant of the world in which we live?


The Free World? Yeah, kinda. Look- I'm clear we'll never agree on this- and that's okay. Different opinions are allowed in the free world, too.

This is something that's been around for a very long time, and as long as there are people with a "rebel spirit" in this country, it will not go away. My opinion based on fact. That's all.

Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6547 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:07 pm to
Marxism/Socialism was set in motion by Cornelius Vanderbilt, John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, J. P. Morgan, J P Getty and the like. They took advantage of poor immigrants coming from Europe (and Asia). These same immigrants brought concepts of anarchism and Marxism with them from Europe. As the disparity in wealth, wages and working conditions grew, these novel concepts become popular and spread. The STRONGEST deterrent to these concepts is a large, strong and wealthy class.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37485 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:26 pm to
Please dude, the Union fought that war with one hsnd tied behind its back. The Northern railroad system was so much more effective on its worst day than the Confederacy had on its best. The North had more foundries to produce cannon and gun. The North had a navy and shpbuilding infrastructure, the South did not. The North had Samuel Colt and NYC . Southerners delude themselves about the whole woulda coulda shoulda.....so many major disadvantages.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Poor old Wilmer McLean had two battles on his properties - one to begin the war, the other to end it.


"We don't need an HOA," they said...
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