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re: 155 years ago today, Vicksburg fell:

Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5494 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:59 pm to
Define win. Body count, we won. The Jane Fonda’s of the world, paired with pussified government prohibited us from winning the war. Erase the DMZ, allow Laos and Cambodia to be fair game early on....they’d be eating apple pie and flying the Stars and Stripes today too. Keep on keepin’ on.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86490 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:11 pm to
I lived in Vicksburg for two years. From my window I could see trench lines about 100 feet away ( Confederate Ave ) . Big berms. I went back a couple of months ago to take my family to the battlefield. Cool stuff.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1661 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:17 pm to
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Grants Vicksburg campaign is one of the greatest military feats in our history.



Wait, what? For crossing a few bayous and sitting around waiting on the defenders to starve? Please. If the Vicksburg Campaign proves anything it's the incompetence of the Confederate leadership in the West, not Grant's brilliance.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:32 pm to
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If you mount up against us, you're gonna get crushed.


Us? You got a frog in your pocket?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151044 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:35 pm to
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CSA was a terrorist "nation" with all the legitimacy that ISIS has a "nation"
Posted by USAF_Vol
Member since Sep 2005
827 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:48 pm to
Are you kidding?

Look how long it took him to complete moving his army to lay siege.

The terrain alone was the worst an army could encounter. Rivers, bayous and flood plains.

He had his navy run the guns to give him a chance. Once below the guns he had to drive further south in the bayous to cross the river.

Once on the east side he masterfully defeated CS troops to snare them in a trap back at Vicksburg.

His engineering to move an army thy large to the areas it went are amazing.

You should read about his campaign there. It’s a reason his command during that campaign is STILL STUDIED in war colleges today. Today is 2018 BTW
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:00 pm to
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Good, frick Mississippi. Hope it falls again.



Vicksburg gets more tourism than your home town.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4832 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:02 pm to
Had Jackson been alive and transferred to the west, Vicksburg would not have fallen
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41893 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:08 pm to
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Us? You got a frog in your pocket?


Us being the US of A. CSA soyboys got cucked by big daddy Grant.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21523 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:21 pm to
There appears to be a lot of modern unpatriotic folk who would prefer to live in the CSA than the USA.

Sad. Deport them and replace with hard working Mexicans who actually love America.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17204 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:44 pm to
Read the preamble.

Wait. I’ll help.

quote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


This is the foundation this country was built upon. Lincoln was in between a rock and a hard place. Still the shittiet president we ever had in my book.

American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:45 pm to
Great city by the way

So much history

Great place to spend a Saturday with the wife and kids
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48609 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 9:49 am to
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quote:

You're only a traitor if you lose




Guess who lost




I was replying in reference to
quote:

Says the loser who believes our founding fathers (you know. Traitors) should have been killed.


Are you suggesting the term "founding fathers" was referencing the confederacy or that the England actually won the revolutionary war?

Context is a key part of reading comprehension.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 10:23 am to
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Says the guy who goes by fightin tigers, the name used in honor of Confederate soldiers. The ones LSU chose as their inspiration.


Yep. You got me. I'm just as despicable as people who fought to keep other humans enslaved.
Posted by LATECHgradLSUfan
LA
Member since Sep 2007
3269 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 10:53 am to
can you imagine how miserable the MS - LA line was.... fighting a war in full wool uniforms in the heat of July. Cheers to both sides toughing that shite out for the cause they each respectively believed in..
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58281 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 11:05 am to
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South was never going to win the war ; best they were hoping for was to hold steady until probably early 1864 where the North could’ve settled the war to end the bloodshed.

Take into account the growing anti-war sentiment in the border states, horrific Draft Riots in NYC, and the upcoming 1864 election where Lincoln would lose without any major Union victories. The pieces were definetly in place had Vicksburg or Gettysburg turned out differently




Get that informed reasonable shite out of here. This is a thread for calling people who died centuries ago, names, and feeling tough about it. If you don't like it...

This post was edited on 7/5/18 at 11:06 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58281 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 11:10 am to
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Us being the US of A. CSA soyboys got cucked by big daddy Grant.


Why does it sound so much that you are overcompensating for something? I mean really, there is a shite load of insecurity in your posts. Everything ok at home?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61883 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 11:16 am to
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This is America. If you don't like it, then gtfo.


What is America if not for rebels in search of freedom to choose their own rulers for themselves? What exactly do you think the war for Independence was about if not for just that?

quote:

Why do you support anyone who takes up arms against our brave soldiers?


Which brave soldiers? The country was split. When Georgia sent their troops to fight under the Georgia state flag, they were supporting their brave soldiers, in as much as Massachusetts were supporting their brave soldiers when they sent them to fight under their flag. Quit being a child.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83249 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 11:20 am to
How fricking backwards is this place that this thread has a bunch of CSA sympathizers. Probably the same people that were wearing their American flag wife beaters, cargo shorts and flip flops last night while shooting bottle rockets in their ditch.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60138 posts
Posted on 7/5/18 at 11:22 am to
The union soldiers weren’t brave, they had way more of them. The southern soldier was happy in the knowledge that he was fighting for freedom from an oppressive federal government and rights for his state. Confederate soldiers are like modern Trump supporters and the union was the evil liberals
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