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re: $100,000 income: No big deal anymore

Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
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You're a complete retard if you live in a 175k house and have vehicles that are 100k+ combined


Sure, and the lack of financial acumen and paycheck to paycheck lifestyle will lead those couples to suggest they're "lower middle class."

They're not lower middle class, they're idiots.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:47 pm to
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You're a complete retard if you live in a 175k house and have vehicles that are 100k+ combined 

Our house cost about 1.2x our annual income. I always found it crazy that people making 80k are living in 225k homes
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Our house cost about 1.2x our annual income. I always found it crazy that people making 80k are living in 225k homes


well you pay for private schools

some people will pay more for the house to avoid private schools

its a bit of a wash
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61599 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:49 pm to
A late model Tahoe & f150 isn't 100k combined
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Our house cost about 1.2x our annual income. I always found it crazy that people making 80k are living in 225k homes




Those low housing costs in the south must be nice. I'm rocking about 2.7x on the west coast
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:50 pm to
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perhaps

and like I said, my daughter is in daycare and has been since she was 2, and she has thrived in daycare

but I also feel like she may be more advanced in some things with more one on one learning




For instance, I want my kids in daycare for purely the social interaction of other individuals not named mom or dad.

With my engineering background I feel like I should be able to teach them anything math and critical thinking skill related. That can be taken care of when I get home from the office.
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:52 pm to
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I have very low expectations out of our child care provider. All of the parenting/education is done when they're with us. I'm sure I could spend another $750 per kid and find a daycare that teaches Latin, and bravo if that's your choice, but it isn't a big deal to us.




To each his own...

I can't fathom knowing my most precious assets are trusted to a minimum wage/warm body employee. Then again I know firsthand the type of people those types of daycare hire.

Again whatever works
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:53 pm to
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well you pay for private schools some people will pay more for the house to avoid private schools its a bit of a wash

I guess it's just more of a comment on people overextending their finances in general. We pay for private schools but we also make pretty decent money. I've been trying to convince the wife to move out of BR but so far she's not budging.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41007 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:54 pm to
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To each his own...

I can't fathom knowing my most precious assets are trusted to a minimum wage/warm body employee. Then again I know firsthand the type of people those types of daycare hire.

Again whatever works


Aren't most daycare providers not really killing it? From what I've seen in cursory observations, even the workers at the nice daycare center aren't making a lot.

Which makes sense since daycare provider is a very low skill job.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Our house cost about 1.2x our annual income. I always found it crazy that people making 80k are living in 225k homes



225k is nothing for a home and easily affordable on 80k if you save up for a nice down-payment, have no kids, and property taxes aren’t outrageous. Rent is more than mortgages in a lot of cities as well, so you actually save on your monthly bills.

You want someone with 80k to buy a sub-100k house? Because that would be what we call a “trailer”.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:55 pm to
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A late model Tahoe & f150 isn't 100k combined



If you purchased them both new, you're probably close. My point is that your vehicles shouldn't be "worth" half of your home. Why would you put so much of your income into depreciating assets, rather than your home (which is typically an appreciating asset)?
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:57 pm to
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You want someone with 80k to buy a sub-100k house? Because that would be what we call a “trailer”. 

Our first house cost $118k. We just had twins and the wife took a year off of work. It wasn't a trailer but definitely a starter home in the country.
Posted by tigersnipen
Member since Dec 2006
2109 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:58 pm to
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Our first house cost $118k. We just had twins and the wife took a year off of work. It wasn't a trailer but definitely a starter home in the country.


What city can you buy a $118k house that is in a safe area?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:00 pm to
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What city can you buy a $118k house that is in a safe area?


Maybe Prosper in DFW LOL.

Second thought, nvm, somebody gotta pay for that new HS Stadium
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32409 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:02 pm to
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True. However, if your wife is a nurse or in a profession that brings home a salary of 65k or above, she needs to be working. However, that is a personal preference. Not the rule.



I don't know how much child care is, but if someone is making 60k and pushes your household into the next bracket and not including hcild care cost, is it worth it?
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:02 pm to
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What city can you buy a $118k house that is in a safe area?

We lived out near Walker at the time. Granted this was 2006 when I bought that house.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:04 pm to
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I don't know how much child care is, but if someone is making 60k and pushes your household into the next bracket and not including hcild care cost, is it worth it?


Baw, I'll be living in the 28% bracket for a good part of my life lol. Unless I move into Technical management, it really won't matter unless Ms. 50 is pulling the same grip I am.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:04 pm to
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What city can you buy a $118k house that is in a safe area?



A lot of cities actually. This is possible in many states like Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Arizona, Texas, Tennessee, just to name a few.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Utah, Wyoming, Idaho,


Pecker you call this living?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41007 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:06 pm to
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I don't know how much child care is, but if someone is making 60k and pushes your household into the next bracket and not including hcild care cost, is it worth it?


You do know that the tax system is a progressive tax system right? "Pushing yourself into another tax bracket" is never a reason not to take the extra money....ever.

Or am I reading this wrong?
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 1:08 pm
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