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re: 100 Most Liveable Cities in America (2026)
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:48 am to Govt Tide
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:48 am to Govt Tide
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it takes into account the metrics of the overall urban designated area of a city which helps boost the ranking of some of the cities
Who lets them know what is the "overall urban designated area" of a city?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:49 am to grizzlylongcut
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Sure, if you want to live in little Punjab
Plano is not that bad. Frisco is by far their home and moving north up to Prosper and Celina
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:15 am to soccerfüt
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FYI: Oxford, MS is currently around 27k in population.
Yep. The 75,000 minimum population threshold hurts Mississippi in this particular ranking because the state only has 2 cities (Jackson and Gulfport) that meet/exceed the 75,000 mimimum population threshold.
Ironically, Oxford's population was also a factor in being left off the U..S. News & World Report's list of the Top 250 places to live in America in 2026. For some reason USNWR used 2020 U.S. Census population data (instead of 2025 data) when Oxford's 2020 population was just barely under the minimum 25k population threshold needed for consideration on the U.S News ranking of the 250 best places to live in the U.S.. Oxford s 's population has grown to almost 28,000 as of 2025.
That same 25k minimum population threshold being based on 2020 population data (instead of on 2025 data) also kept cities like Madison, MS and Fairhope, AL which are similar iin both size and growth rate off the list while cities like Mountain Brook, AL and John's Creek, GA both have average home prices that exceed the $500,000 maximum threshold for consideration in this ranking
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 11:19 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:37 pm to bad93ex
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Who lets them know what is the "overall urban designated area" of a city?
Good question. The U.S. Census Bureau has both metropolitan statistical area designations as well as urban defined area designations. A city's urban area designation includes all the contiguous suburban area towns municipalities, and unincorporated areas surrounding a given city. A city's urban area ends where the continously development either ends and gives way to rural areas or when it runs into the urban designated area of a separate distinct nearby city.
MSAs (metropolitan statistical areas), on the hand, differ from "urban areas" in that they include the population of both the core county a given city is located in as well as the population of all surrounding counties where at least 25% of the surrounding county's working population commutes into the core county to work.
The population of an American city's deignated urban area is typically much smaller or is usually at least considerably smaller than the population of its MSA. Judging the metrics of a city's urban designated area provides a truer measure of a city's relative strengths and weakness than in my opinion than a measure of its entire metro population.
This is why for example you see a lot of Texas cities that are part of larger Texas metros listed individually apart from those metro areas on this ranking list. Plano, Sugar Land, Round Rock, and New Braunfels are Texas cities with their own distinct urban area designations that are separate from the larger metropolitan areas they are a part of. Cities like Hoover, AL and Franklin, TN for example are considered part of the Birmingham and Nashville designated urban areas respectively which is why both of those cities were able to make the Top 250 places to live ranking list but not able to make this rankings list
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:45 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Sure, if you want to live in little Punjab.
Sounds like a Kama Sutra position.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:48 pm to Govt Tide
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The $500K Ceiling: We exclude cities with median home values over $500,000. If it isn’t attainable, it isn’t on our list.
Maybe because I'm in California, but I feel that excludes the majority of the nicest cities.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:50 pm to Govt Tide
Orlando (78) metropolitan area is great. Orlando itself is a hell hole.
Someone was skeptical of Daytona. That place has drastically improved in the past decade or so. It still has more than its share of crime but the newer areas are quite nice and affordable.
Gainesville is okay and inexpensive relative to most places in Florida. It’s ungodly hot this time of year. Traffic is horrific when UF is in session.
Someone was skeptical of Daytona. That place has drastically improved in the past decade or so. It still has more than its share of crime but the newer areas are quite nice and affordable.
Gainesville is okay and inexpensive relative to most places in Florida. It’s ungodly hot this time of year. Traffic is horrific when UF is in session.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:55 pm to Govt Tide
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New Braunfels
Legit
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:55 pm to Easy
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Maybe because I'm in California, but I feel that excludes the majority of the nicest cities.
Yeah, to exclude the cities with an average home price over 500k simply excludes all the best cities.
The list is better put as best cities to move to if you want more house choices under 500k.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:56 pm to Govt Tide
The south shall rise again.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:03 pm to Govt Tide
After relocating and actually looking at some of these places, investigating the day to day life you realize quickly that these lists are a joke.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:04 pm to Govt Tide
Charleston is great if 1) you have a lot of money and 2) don’t need to drive anywhere and fight the traffic.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:08 pm to Odysseus32
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After relocating and actually looking at some of these places, investigating the day to day life you realize quickly that these lists are a joke.
They often give an impression of being paid advertising for real estate investors trying to raise the average home prices above 500k like in the actual nicest cities.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:49 pm to Govt Tide
A lot of those towns I don't even like to visit much less live in. Midland, Tx ???

Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:41 pm to Govt Tide
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The $500K Ceiling: We exclude cities with median home values over $500,000
They list 3 of their top 5 with median home values over $500k.
Am I missing something here?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:43 pm to Govt Tide
Great, just what the South needs, more good press that will draw yankee and west coast transplants.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:44 pm to bad93ex
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92) St. Louis, MO - 281,376
Has to be way out in the burbs, I hate that damn city
Cool. Stay away. We don't need you.
The city's a shithole. The area around it is a well kept secret of nice paying jobs and a reasonable cost of living.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:45 pm to Govt Tide
List is BS without Oxford, MS
Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:47 pm to Mizz-SEC
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St. Louis, MO
Billy G’s in Kirkwood is one of the best restaurants in the country.

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