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Would switching to grass help with injuries?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:50 am
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:50 am
Seems most players hate turf and it causes a lot of leg injuries every year, would switching to real grass help us avoid all the devastating injuries we’ve been having year after year
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:59 am to Lsujacket66
Yes. Good luck getting the Saints to do that in a dome and after they just replaced the field surface a couple years ago.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:22 am to LSUPilot07
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and after they just replaced the field surface a couple years ago.
Don't they change it every year?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:42 am to Hangover Haven
Pretty much every year. A grass field in a dome is doable, but its damn expensive, especially on the upkeep. Some domes have a grass field on a retractable field.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:30 pm to pmacneworleans
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Pretty much every year. A grass field in a dome is doable, but its damn expensive, especially on the upkeep. Some domes have a grass field on a retractable field.
It has been awhile but I remember the Saints playing a preseason game against the Packers in the Dome and they brought is real grass. It was a experimental thing. I remember the players like but I guess logistically and financially it wasn't feasible at the time because no more was said about it.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:09 pm to Lsujacket66
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Would switching to grass help with injuries?
yes and no, less serious injuries with torn ligaments and broken bones, but you will have more minor injuries like twisted ankles and sprains.
then there is the trade off in it slows the game way down making guys run much slower vs being on turf.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:36 pm to keakar
Somehow, elementary school science eludes most people, especially media types like Mike Florio, so here we go:
1. In the long run, grass does not survive indoors. Small holes like in Atlanta and Dallas aren't enough. Windows like in Minnesota aren't enough.
2. You can put down a grass field for a few weeks. After that, it's dead. They are going to try that for the World Cup in 2026, but I guarantee that the major issue for that tournament will be pitch quality in the domes and retractable roof stadiums as the tournament progresses.
3. There are 2 ways to get around point #1. First is to build a way to pull the grass field outside, such is the case in Arizona. This must be done at construction; making this change during a renovation is either next to impossible or impossible.
4. Or, you can build a white light repository for the grass to simulate sunlight. Tottenham Hotspur and Vegas both have this. Again, this must be done at construction; creating such a place during a renovation would be either very difficult or not possible.
5. New grass field every few weeks is not viable. Not only would it be extraordinarily expensive, but see the last Super Bowl for what it's like to play football on a new grass field that does not have several weeks to settle.
6. Grass would struggle in stadiums that stare tenants. Twice as much football would chew up the turf twice as fast and not give the grass time to recover.
7. There are some outdoor stadiums where grass has never worked: New England for example.
So, if the NFL were to mandate grass, the following teams would definitely need brand new stadiums:
Colts, Chargers, Cowboys, Vikings, Lions, Saints, Falcons, Rams. Yes, the $5 Billion SoFi and Jerry World would be done. Can you imagine the conversation between Roger Goddell and Stan Kronke or Jerry Jones when he told them to move.
Additionally, some other teams would have issues:
Giants and Jets - torn up grass field due to overuse
Texas - tried grass, couldn't make it work
Patriots - tried grass, was always a muddy mess
In short, there will always be artificial turf in the NFL.
1. In the long run, grass does not survive indoors. Small holes like in Atlanta and Dallas aren't enough. Windows like in Minnesota aren't enough.
2. You can put down a grass field for a few weeks. After that, it's dead. They are going to try that for the World Cup in 2026, but I guarantee that the major issue for that tournament will be pitch quality in the domes and retractable roof stadiums as the tournament progresses.
3. There are 2 ways to get around point #1. First is to build a way to pull the grass field outside, such is the case in Arizona. This must be done at construction; making this change during a renovation is either next to impossible or impossible.
4. Or, you can build a white light repository for the grass to simulate sunlight. Tottenham Hotspur and Vegas both have this. Again, this must be done at construction; creating such a place during a renovation would be either very difficult or not possible.
5. New grass field every few weeks is not viable. Not only would it be extraordinarily expensive, but see the last Super Bowl for what it's like to play football on a new grass field that does not have several weeks to settle.
6. Grass would struggle in stadiums that stare tenants. Twice as much football would chew up the turf twice as fast and not give the grass time to recover.
7. There are some outdoor stadiums where grass has never worked: New England for example.
So, if the NFL were to mandate grass, the following teams would definitely need brand new stadiums:
Colts, Chargers, Cowboys, Vikings, Lions, Saints, Falcons, Rams. Yes, the $5 Billion SoFi and Jerry World would be done. Can you imagine the conversation between Roger Goddell and Stan Kronke or Jerry Jones when he told them to move.
Additionally, some other teams would have issues:
Giants and Jets - torn up grass field due to overuse
Texas - tried grass, couldn't make it work
Patriots - tried grass, was always a muddy mess
In short, there will always be artificial turf in the NFL.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:30 pm to pmacneworleans
This is incorrect - we only change it every 4 or 5 years
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:31 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Yah that was in the late 90s or early 2000s. I remember the brought a couple of goats or cows into the dome to eat the grass as a publicity stunt
Eta: tried to find a picture and this came up, lads

Eta: tried to find a picture and this came up, lads
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:50 pm to bstaceyau19
Vegas is artificial turf. I’ve been on that field
Posted on 6/4/23 at 4:26 pm to DCtiger1
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Vegas is artificial turf. I’ve been on that field
Raiders play on grass, unlv and bowl are on turf

This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 4:28 pm to saints63213
You found it! Great job, mate
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Southern Turf Nurseries, the Alabama company behind the indoor grass, said it spent $270,000 on development.
Company officials contend that having grass indoors will allow domed stadiums to host events normally held in outdoor stadiums such as World Cup Soccer
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:51 pm to pmacneworleans
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Some domes have a grass field on a retractable field.
Could you imagine a retractable field on the side of the dome. The bums would sleep on it at night and you’d find drug needles buried everywhere.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:48 am to Lsujacket66
Agreed. There’s ZERO excuse for any NFL team to not have natural grass.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:13 am to ForeverEllisHugh
frick natural grass ... give us a completely new training staff.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:36 pm to Lsujacket66
Our field turf needs to be replaced to some thing that is less injury prone.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:42 pm to SirWinston
Odd, because I have pictures on the field and the turf was painted for the raiders
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:03 am to Lsujacket66
In somewhat related news, the Bills just broke ground on their new $1.4 billion stadium. When Gayle (or likely her successor) most certainly comes to the state and says "We want a stadium like the Raiders, Rams, Chargers, Falcons, Vikings, 49ers, Giants, Jets, Cowboys, Colts, Cardinals, Eagles, Lions, Patriots, Seahawks, Texans, Steelers, Broncos, Bengals, etc etc etc have..."
What is the state going to do? Saving all those bandaid bills to modify the 3rd oldest stadium in the league could have gotten us pretty far in the funding.
The only older stadiums are Lambeau, Arrowhead and Soldier Field. And the Bears bought property to develop something new in 2021.
How will we fund it? It's going to get pretty dicey when San Antoino, San Diego, and St Louis show up with some offers. I've been saying this for years now. We gotta plan for the future because competing cities are probably starting to lick their chops...
What is the state going to do? Saving all those bandaid bills to modify the 3rd oldest stadium in the league could have gotten us pretty far in the funding.
The only older stadiums are Lambeau, Arrowhead and Soldier Field. And the Bears bought property to develop something new in 2021.
How will we fund it? It's going to get pretty dicey when San Antoino, San Diego, and St Louis show up with some offers. I've been saying this for years now. We gotta plan for the future because competing cities are probably starting to lick their chops...
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:07 am to Giantkiller
The superdome is still a viable nfl stadium
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