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re: We will win 11+ games this year
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:30 am to moneyg
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:30 am to moneyg
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You feel good about Chicago on the road? We would probably be a 7 point dog in that game right now.
There's not a chance we would be +7 against Chicago. They had some fluky wins last season, and got a decimated Packers team in the Wild Card. They beat us by 12 last season with Rattler throwing 3 interceptions, a missed field goal, and an unconverted 4th down. We've improved A LOT since then.
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Minnesota and Pittsburg at home are at best tossups.
Both of these teams will be fighting to be .500 next season. Having both of those at home we should absolutely be favorites.
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Cincinnati and the Giants on the road are at best tossups.
Maybe the Giants, they have some weapons at WR, but the Bengals still should be bad.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 11:31 am
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:32 am to TechDawg2007
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:33 am to TechDawg2007
i got a possible 8
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:19 pm to lionward2014
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There's not a chance we would be +7 against Chicago. They had some fluky wins last season, and got a decimated Packers team in the Wild Card. They beat us by 12 last season with Rattler throwing 3 interceptions, a missed field goal, and an unconverted 4th down. We've improved A LOT since then.
There's definitely a chance. It's why I said "right now" because Chicago is viewed as an ascending, perhaps elite team. Regardless, very few people would look at that game today and say it's one to point to for a win.
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Both of these teams will be fighting to be .500 next season. Having both of those at home we should absolutely be favorites.
Do you view us above the "fighting for .500" group?
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Maybe the Giants, they have some weapons at WR, but the Bengals still should be bad.
Road game, man. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying the game is going to be viewed as a tossup type.
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The only thing laughable is the ASSUMPTION that this team is going to be in that 11 game neighborhood. If that happened, we probably hit in a major way on multiple draft picks, Shough probably took 2 steps forward and looks like a top 10 QB, and Moore would be looking like an elite level coach.
I'm sorry to tell you that there is a realistic scenario where we look back on our draft positively, Shough ends next season looking like a legit franchise type starting QB, Moore may look like a good coach...and we still we still don't sniff 11 wins.
Things don't often turn around as quickly and easily as you've convinced yourself.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:41 pm to moneyg
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The only thing laughable is the ASSUMPTION that this team is going to be in that 11 game neighborhood. If that happened, we probably hit in a major way on multiple draft picks, Shough probably took 2 steps forward and looks like a top 10 QB, and Moore would be looking like an elite level coach.
I'm sorry to tell you that there is a realistic scenario where we look back on our draft positively, Shough ends next season looking like a legit franchise type starting QB, Moore may look like a good coach...and we still we still don't sniff 11 wins.
Things don't often turn around as quickly and easily as you've convinced yourself.
I get your cynicism, and probably more realistic take, but I disagree. Look at the Pats just last season. We beat them 34-0 in 2023, they were 4-13 in 2024, and last season they made the Super Bowl (beating us by only 6 during the regular season). A quick turnaround is very possible.
We have a solid coaching staff, a young QB that showed he can ball, added some weapons on offense, a defense that returns a lot of big contributors that was playing very well to end the season and added some pieces, an offensive line that if healthy is at minimum serviceable (arguably a piece away from being good), and most importantly a crap division with the second easiest schedule.
I don't think it is unreasonable at all to think 11 wins is realistic. Now we may not make a deep playoff run, but that is certainly on the horizon.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:54 pm to lionward2014
We need to worry about the division before we talk about winning double digit games. Y’all are foolishly dismissing these teams like we are so much better than TB, CAR and ATL. How you do in the division will dictate your record
When there are a bunch of “if this happens” on a path to 11 wins, you probably aren’t an 11 win roster
When there are a bunch of “if this happens” on a path to 11 wins, you probably aren’t an 11 win roster
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:03 pm to lionward2014
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I get your cynicism, and probably more realistic take, but I disagree. Look at the Pats just last season. We beat them 34-0 in 2023, they were 4-13 in 2024, and last season they made the Super Bowl (beating us by only 6 during the regular season). A quick turnaround is very possible.
Stop right there. I wouldn't argue that it's impossible. You are moving the goalposts to justify an opinion in which you laughed at me suggesting two road games (NY and CIN) were tossups while another road game (Chi) was not a game to feel good about.
You are a fan. You are optimistic. I get it. Have at it. But, you are WAY out on a limb predicting 11 wins.
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have a solid coaching staff, a young QB that showed he can ball, added some weapons on offense,
All of this can be true and we still end up in that 8 win range...easily. In fact, I'd say a lot would have to go right for us to win 8 games.
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a defense that returns a lot of big contributors that was playing very well to end the season and added some pieces
Our defense will likely be undertalented in a couple of major areas. I view the defense as needing a talent infusion for us to really be a quality NFL team.
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an offensive line that if healthy is at minimum serviceable
The OL would probably have to look like an elite group for us to take the kind of step forward that you are referencing. We'd probably have to have an elite running game to go with our emerging passing game.
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most importantly a crap division with the second easiest schedule.
That's already baked in. You are using our 7 wins last year as the basis for this year...but we benefitted from that weak schedule last year.
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we may not make a deep playoff run, but that is certainly on the horizon.
Sorry, but it's not a certainty that it's on the horizon.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 3:47 pm to moneyg
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You are using our 7 wins last year as the basis for this year...but we benefitted from that weak schedule last year.
6 wins
At the beginning of the season it looked like the Saints had the easiest schedule, but after the games were played they ended up around 14th (not looking it up again). Which is why any optimism/pessimism is hard pressed to say definitively what will happen since teams can change over in a season; and there will be some that have a Patriots/Chicago type regular season jump.
Funny thing is, how many fanbases are looking at the 6 win Saints as a potential easy game, while our fanbase is talking about double digit wins like it's a damn near certainty. I'm optimistic based on how this team finished, and what they did in the offseason; but I'm also realistic in the fact I have no idea what the other 31 teams did
Posted on 5/11/26 at 3:56 pm to TechDawg2007
Not sure about total wins, but if they stay relatively healthy and we hit on a couple of those draft choices, it wouldn't be beyond reason to contend for the playoffs...
Posted on 5/11/26 at 4:00 pm to TechDawg2007
?? what does Vegas say
Posted on 5/11/26 at 4:32 pm to TechDawg2007
I will gladly take 10-7
Posted on 5/11/26 at 5:33 pm to TechDawg2007
Too soon to tell. I want to see what shakes out in training camp and preseason.
Shough will be better next season, that much I know will be true. He knows he can't afford a let up from last season and has done a lot of off season work. Plus his OL should be better and a better and deeper WR corps. Plus he now has a legit running game
Our defense could be great this year. Not just the draftees but also the FA pick ups. This is the area that needs to shaped. This for me is the biggest question mark. If the defense comes together we could roll.
Shough will be better next season, that much I know will be true. He knows he can't afford a let up from last season and has done a lot of off season work. Plus his OL should be better and a better and deeper WR corps. Plus he now has a legit running game
Our defense could be great this year. Not just the draftees but also the FA pick ups. This is the area that needs to shaped. This for me is the biggest question mark. If the defense comes together we could roll.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:05 pm to TechDawg2007
Dee looo shun awllll
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:21 pm to lionward2014
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We have a solid coaching staff, a young QB that showed he can ball, added some weapons on offense, a defense that returns a lot of big contributors that was playing very well to end the season and added some pieces, an offensive line that if healthy is at minimum serviceable (arguably a piece away from being good), and most importantly a crap division with the second easiest schedule. I don't think it is unreasonable at all to think 11 wins is realistic. Now we may not make a deep playoff run, but that is certainly on the horizon.
This is a ton of a projection. It is in no way a certainty that we have a pending deep playoff run any more than Shough coming back down to earth and settling in as a mid tier qb. They’re all still well within the range of outcomes and we simply don’t know yet unfortunately.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:29 pm to TechDawg2007
The QB and WRs have to play a full season which historically hasn't been the case in their careers. That's the chance you take with injury prone players
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:59 pm to tzimme4
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The QB and WRs have to play a full season which historically hasn't been the case in their careers. That's the chance you take with injury prone players
That’s where the depth comes in. We can withstand some injuries and still be competitive now.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:16 pm to SaintTigerPel
Rattler can win games at QB? Right...
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:55 pm to Flavius Belisarius
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11 is the floor.
I’m all for positivity but you got the Sunshinesoaker 10,000 out for this post. Unless you’ve got the ceiling and floor confused then I agree. We won 6 games last year. 11 is possible but a lot of things will need to go our way to pump out 11 wins. That’s a tall order for most teams in the league.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:34 pm to tzimme4
With the supporting cast, If he has to start a couple of home games against weaker opponents, absolutely.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 7:09 am
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