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re: Watson will meet with the Cleveland Browns tomorrow

Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:49 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:49 am to
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If he approves all 3 teams it does


Do you think he's really going to leave the decision up to the Texans? I don't think he'll do that, IMO he'll tell them which team he wants to go to.

ETA: also playing in the NFC would be much better for him than going to the AFC.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:51 am to
I wouldn't, but deshaun seems to do questionable things
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:57 am to
So, anyone know if there will be more teams? If we aren't gonna get him, I wanna know soon so we can move on
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:57 am to
The Browns and Panthers are in shambles. Cleveland has gone through 3 coaches in 5 years and Rhule is on the hottest of hot seats.

At least the Saints are a playoff contender. He could be concerned about the new coaching staff, but its essentially the same as the old coaching staff. LOL If this Jarvis Landry smoke is real, he'd be a fool not to come.
Posted by LSUChamps03
S. Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:58 am to
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I think the Browns are a team he’s interested in for whatever reason. Despite them not having much success outside of one playoff run the last several years.


One thing that could play into the Browns favor vs. Saints is that Stefanski is an offensive coach while Allen is of course defensive.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:02 am to
Try and be objective and it isn’t as clear cut. The Saints just lost their longtime coach who basically created the team’s success and ran the offense. Now it’s a new head coach, who previously failed in his first stint as a HC, and an OC who wasn’t the play caller for the Saints past successful offenses.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37499 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:05 am to
As far as QBs on his level, you're looking at a conference with:

Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Wilson
Jackson?

Vs the NFC with:

Brady
Rodgers
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:06 am to
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Could be wrong but just don’t see Cleveland being a threat. They haven’t shown to be anymore competent then the shite show he’s trying to get away from


They have a pretty strong roster similar to ours. Many would say a QB away.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:10 am to
Exactly. Not like Rhule or Stefanski are world beaters either but one of them is an offensive coach. I totally see this getting dragged out now if a fourth team is added. Watson is on his own timeline and other teams are in better position because they at least have an option at QB so they can wait, especially if the Eagles get involved which I expect.

We currently do not have a QB. If Watson takes another team meeting outside of today, I expect the Saints to jump ship and sign Jameis. Our fans don’t want to admit it, but we don’t have a great track record when it comes to big names ultimately choosing us the last few years. They’re intrigued by us but they go somewhere else for whatever reason. Logically, his best chance at success is with us, but ALOT of NFL players don’t think logically. We all know that. Most of their agents think for them. And Watson’s agent has good ties with the Browns GM Andrew Berry. He’s going to push Cleveland hard because he knows we’re still likely the favorite because of Thomas/Kamara.

I want Watson here but it’s time to read the tea leaves.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:15 am to
quote:

They have a pretty strong roster similar to ours. Many would say a QB away.



Exactly. They have the names now with Cooper being there. Obviously Kamara/Thomas >>> Cooper/Chubb but the difference between them might not be that much to Watson. Their defense was/is good too. Not as good as ours but enough to be attractive.

And while we know the Browns are mostly a shite organization, most players don’t look at that. Coaches do. Not players, for the most part. They want to play with other talent and get paid. Not to mention Cleveland can offer a much better package. I think it’s likely Watson picks the Browns tbh
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:16 am to
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As far as QBs on his level, you're looking at a conference with: Mahomes Allen Burrow Herbert Wilson Jackson? Vs the NFC with: Brady Rodgers



That’s the thing. A logical person would think this way. The typical NFL player does not think this way. He probably won’t even consider it.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
8013 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:22 am to
When is the last time the Saints won a recruiting battle?

Suh, OBJ, Josh Norman, Clowney.

Honestly, most times it works out better for us that we lose out. This might be the same.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:23 am to
Yeah at this stage with more teams coming in I’m not hopeful anymore.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:26 am to
I just assumed Payton is a terrible recruiter. Hopefully Allen can end our dry spell, but it is looking bad for us.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:26 am to
Is if more than browns, panthers, and saints?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:28 am to
Yeah I was hopeful for a little while but I definitely think he chooses Cleveland. fricking sucks but the final team that comes in usually as the best impression. Look at Clowney, Suh, OBj for example.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:37 am to
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Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
2775 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Try and be objective and it isn’t as clear cut. The Saints just lost their longtime coach who basically created the team’s success and ran the offense. Now it’s a new head coach, who previously failed in his first stint as a HC, and an OC who wasn’t the play caller for the Saints past successful offenses.

True, losing Payton definitely hurt. But the OC was retained, the same OC that spent 16 seasons with Sean Payton in that offense, and called plays for a season and led a great passing attack that year.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22284 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:41 am to
He's come out and said he is looking for 3 things in a team, coaching staff, O-line & defense

I can see Stefanski having a slight edge because he's been doing it for 2 years and made the playoffs in year 1. Allen is still an unknown, but you would have to like the continuity after Payton left (Payton staying would make Saints a lock IMO). Rhule maybe Watson could get them to .500

Defensive rankings in 2021:
Points: Saints 4th (335), Clev 13th (371), Car 21st (404)
Yards: Car 2nd (5,201), Clev 5th(5,296), Saints 7th (5,410) 12.3 yards per game difference

On average he would need to score 1 more FG per game in Clev, and 1 more TD per game in Car. NO > Clev > Car

PFF O-line rankings: Clev 8th (everyone is coming back in '22), Saints 18th, Panthers 31st

If these are Watson's true priorities, I think Carolina is out and Clev has the edge. Saints will have to sell to him why their o-line is better than last year (injury issue) and what changes they will be making to address. They will also need to sell the culture of the Saints and make sure they stick out over the culture in Clev. The biggest tipping point not mentioned here will be the top 2 competitors in the NFC are Rodgers (38) & Brady (45 when league starts) are at the back end of their careers
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77204 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:46 am to
I would add the advantage of the small market in NOLA. No other media market in the nfl is as small and friendly as in New Orleans. No better place to rehab your image than here.
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