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Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move up
Posted by tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 2:51 pm
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3I really hope the saints do not consider moving next years first to move up. They have a history of doing this and next years pick is most likely going to be a top 5 pick. I really hope that they have taken that pick off the table. That would be a disastrous move for a franchise that’s already made a bunch of disastrous moves.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by southsidedell 
on 2/2/23 at 2:54 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 2:54 pm to tigersquad89The window is closed. Draft where you are in the first dont mortgage any more of the future.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by Sauce Castieaux 
on 2/2/23 at 3:00 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 3:00 pm to tigersquad89I dont think we will.
I saw Jeff Ireland say something along the lines of "we look forward to doing more work in the 1st round"
Sounds kinda like a shot lol
I saw Jeff Ireland say something along the lines of "we look forward to doing more work in the 1st round"
Sounds kinda like a shot lol
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by blackandgolddude 
on 2/2/23 at 3:12 pm to Sauce Castieaux
on 2/2/23 at 3:12 pm to Sauce CastieauxWe're absolutely going to attempt to move up for Young, Stroud, or Levis
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by MechanicalTiger on 2/2/23 at 3:20 pm to blackandgolddude
on 2/2/23 at 3:20 pm to blackandgolddudeWould love to see Young in black & gold.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by redneck on 2/2/23 at 3:24 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 3:24 pm to tigersquad89quote:
most likely going to be a top 5 pick
based on? We only had 4 losses that were not 1 possession games. and those 4 losses were by 10,14,10,13.
Top 5 draft teams get their arse kicked on a regular basis. As shitty as this past season was, we were a few turnovers/dumb plays away from winning the division. Also, the South is going to be so bad next year that we may even be favored to win it depending on what we do at QB.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by beauchristopher on 2/2/23 at 3:32 pm to MechanicalTiger
on 2/2/23 at 3:32 pm to MechanicalTigerquote:
Would love to see Young in black & gold.
Same.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by Rand AlThor on 2/2/23 at 3:36 pm to blackandgolddude
on 2/2/23 at 3:36 pm to blackandgolddudequote:
We're absolutely going to attempt to move up for Young, Stroud, or Levis
We could trade all of our picks this year and next year and we would barely come within range.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by ButchJonesFB on 2/2/23 at 3:36 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 3:36 pm to tigersquad89I agree. However, if a situation where their guy falls similar to the Mahomes one, they should do it. Not saying this staff has any idea about QB talent and can make that call. But I am not opposed to a big jump like that if it is for a QB they are all in on. Any other position is a fireable offense with this roster.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by beauchristopher on 2/2/23 at 3:39 pm to Rand AlThor
on 2/2/23 at 3:39 pm to Rand AlThorquote:
We could trade all of our picks this year and next year and we would barely come within range.
We'd have to include player(s). Probably not worth it.
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re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by WicKed WayZ on 2/2/23 at 3:39 pm to Rand AlThor
on 2/2/23 at 3:39 pm to Rand AlThorquote:
We could trade all of our picks this year and next year and we would barely come within range.
I mean, several beat reporters said yesterday that 29 and 40 would get us to the 11-13 range. Next year’s 1st and 2nd almost assuredly gets you in the top 5, probably even top 3. Especially if it’s the Bears and you throw in Michael Thomas. Bears are desperate to pair Fields with a vet WR like Thomas or Hopkins.
I’m sure Indy could throw more picks at the Bears for #1 and outbid us. But the Saints could be very aggressive if Young and Levis go early and someone like Stroud falls to 4-5. Or just trade with Arizona to number 3 and hope the Bears stick to number 1. I’m not a huge believer in any of the guys outside of Stroud and Young and I have a feeling they’d be the only two we’d be very aggressive in moving up for. That means going for 1 or 3. But 3 puts you in a bad situation if the Colts or Panthers jump ahead to 1 overall, which would probably happen if the Saints pulled the trigger BEFORE the draft and not during
This post was edited on 2/2 at 3:48 pm
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by Proximo on 2/2/23 at 3:44 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 3:44 pm to tigersquad89quote:
next years pick is most likely going to be a top 5 pick
we will win the division if Dalton / Taysom run the offensere: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by LSUPilot07 on 2/2/23 at 4:02 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 4:02 pm to tigersquad89Well get ready Junior because we all know that’s all he knows how to do. I think he just gets tired of having to think about the draft so he just traded all his picks away at first chance. Moving up for a non QB, LT or DE is always a mistake and still usually is anyway. This should be the year to trade out of that 1st to a team wanting the 5th year option that it provides and gather a couple more top 75 picks. This team needs cheap, young talent to get out of cap hell. We aren’t one player away, even if that’s a QB that we hit on. There are holes all over this roster. It’s why Sean got out while the gettin was good. He saw the writing on the wall back in 2019. If he had his way he would be going into year 3 with his new team, not year 1.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by goatmilker on 2/2/23 at 4:28 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 4:28 pm to tigersquad89Now you've done it lol
Yeah we need to accumulate more pics than we normally have over the next couple of years to help with cap. Hopefully the recent win now mode is temporarily suspended for a while.
Yeah we need to accumulate more pics than we normally have over the next couple of years to help with cap. Hopefully the recent win now mode is temporarily suspended for a while.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by deuce985 on 2/2/23 at 4:31 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 4:31 pm to tigersquad89I'm okay with us trading it away for next year so we can load up on picks in 1 draft in case we need to trade up for a franchise QB.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by Rand AlThor on 2/2/23 at 4:38 pm to WicKed WayZ
on 2/2/23 at 4:38 pm to WicKed WayZquote:
I mean, several beat reporters said yesterday that 29 and 40 would get us to the 11-13 range. Next year’s 1st and 2nd almost assuredly gets you in the top 5, probably even top 3. Especially if it’s the Bears and you throw in Michael Thomas. Bears are desperate to pair Fields with a vet WR like Thomas or Hopkins.
Check this chart:
Here's the value of our draft picks this year:
2023 Pick 29 = 610
2023 Pick 40 = 500
2023 Pick 71 = 235
2023 Pick 112 = 70
2023 Pick 143 = 34.5
2023 Pick 163 = 27.2
2023 Pick 205 = 10.4
Roughly worth 1,487 points.
Looking ahead to next year... Picks lose roughly 1/2 of value year over year in draft day negotiation. So let's theorize that we end up with pick 16 next year. I'm going to assume Denver ends up with the pick after us in the 2nd round as well:
2024 Pick 16) = 500 (1000/2)
2024 Pick 48 = 210 (420/2)
2024 Pick 49 (VIA DEN) = 205 (410/2)
2024 Pick 112 = 35 (70/2)
2024 Pick 144 = 17 (34/2)
2024 Pick 176 = 11 (22/2)
2024 Pick 208 = 4.4 (8.8/2)
Roughly worth 982 points
So the entire value of all of the picks we currently own in 2023 and 2024 = 2,469 points. That's good enough for Pick 3, but not Pick 2. We couldn't even guarantee ourselves CJ Stroud at that point. For two entire drafts.
This post was edited on 2/2 at 6:52 pm
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by DeathValley85 on 2/2/23 at 4:39 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 4:39 pm to tigersquad89Why?
Either trade up and get (hopefully) a franchise QB or tank hard to draft one next year. It’s time.
Either trade up and get (hopefully) a franchise QB or tank hard to draft one next year. It’s time.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by St Augustine on 2/2/23 at 4:58 pm to tigersquad89
If you really like a qb that falls it would be perfectly ok. However any other position is off the table for a move. We’re not one piece away or even 5 pieces away.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by Billy Mays on 2/2/23 at 5:22 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 5:22 pm to tigersquad89We have to move up or trade out - every team needs to either suck horribly or find their franchise QB.
This is not a BPA draft for us.
This is not a BPA draft for us.
re: Under no circumstances should we use next years 1st to move upPosted by PenguinPubes on 2/2/23 at 5:58 pm to tigersquad89
on 2/2/23 at 5:58 pm to tigersquad89We should cut Thomas, trade Kamara, trade back in the draft and start a rebuild
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