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re: The offense is better when Kamara gets the ball,

Posted on 10/31/22 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 12:40 pm to
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You need to understand that executing a game plan is predicated on QB play. Once the QB plays you into a negative game script, you cannot execute a gameplay in good faith.

You want to run the ball? Don’t fall behind double digits in every start. No shite the play call looks different. Welcome to the NFL, where you can’t establish the run when you don’t score for three quarters and are trailing by double digits.


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Care to comment on the greatness of Kamara?


its nice seeing him run hard and being used effectively in the receiving game. That goal line reach over was smooth. again, its even nicer that he's publicly taking a bigger role in being a voice of his team and holding everyone accountable.
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
2549 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 10:46 am to
What is your obsession with winston? Just admit that he sucks and Dalton is better lol. Stop making excuses. Dalton has done way better with less WR talent. Just imagine if everyone was healthy.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28155 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:43 am to
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What is your obsession with winston?


There is no obsession, just me pointing out people being wrong about Jameis.

Kamara on average has better numbers with Dalton. He also has his 2nd best receiving game ever with jameis. To act like Jameis would have never improved or gotten better this season after coming back from an acl and an abbreviated camp is the lie I call out.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34965 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:49 am to
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There is no obsession, just me pointing out people being wrong about Jameis.

Kamara on average has better numbers with Dalton. He also has his 2nd best receiving game ever with jameis. To act like Jameis would have never improved or gotten better this season after coming back from an acl and an abbreviated camp is the lie I call out.




Jameis just isn't a qb who checks it down. It is what it is.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 12:00 pm to
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Jameis just isn't a qb who checks it down. It is what it is.


Yet that's all he did against Seattle before tearing his acl
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63701 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 1:02 pm to
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The offense is better when Kamara gets the ball




Ya think?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34965 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 3:55 pm to
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Yet that's all he did against Seattle before tearing his acl


What about all the other games?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 4:00 pm to
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Jameis figured that out too.


Never give up!!!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77186 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 4:03 pm to
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To act like Jameis would have never improved or gotten better this season after coming back from an acl and an abbreviated camp is the lie I call out.


The "lie" is that he never got a real chance. Someone here is heavily to blame for this narrative and we all know who. JW got his chance. He has been benched. Perhaps he can gain glory from a nfl team that..."finally gives him a chance to shine".
It won't be here from what I have seen.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74481 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 4:09 pm to
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Ya think?


I do.

Trying to figure out why he averaged 14 touches the first two weeks including a robust total of 5 catches 19 yards through the air

From week 3 on he’s averaging 25 touches on the back of nearly 9 targets a game

We did get him the ball in that Seattle game back in October 2021 though!
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5418 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 5:45 pm to
It was refreshing to see the old SP calls for AK one on one with a LB. I dont like it all the time, but at certain times its an easy 5 yards. We need to do that more as well as screens.

Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32409 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 5:58 pm to
I just hope our play calling isn't as routine. We tend to keep doing it til it stops working and becomes a detriment (i.e. Unnecessary hits on AK)

That being said, I love jameis' potential but this offense and skills position needs a Qb to make the correct short/intermediate passes. We don't have a wr who will win contested 50/50 balls. We have receivers who can get to a spot and need a Qb who knows what the spot is. Olave, Thomas, and Landry are elite route runners. They find open spots, you need a Qb who can get the ball there.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28155 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 6:15 pm to
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The "lie" is that he never got a real chance


He played 3 quarters after an acl injury and then hurt his back.

But sure, he got a real chance.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 6:22 pm to
Injuries don’t matter bro, remember
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28155 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:56 pm to
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Injuries don’t matter bro, remember


You keep trying to paint the parallels between taysom and jameis, yet jameis soundly beat him out in 2021s camp.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:05 pm to
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You keep trying to paint the parallels between taysom and jameis, yet jameis soundly beat him out in 2021s camp.


First off No.
Second off, Dalton beat Jameis out, it wasn’t a competition for frail jameis
Third off, the parallels are your arguments you stole from me.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9417 posts
Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:04 pm to
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Or maybe you can't run the ball when your offensive line doesn't play well and you use less taysom.


While I understand the reality that anti-Winston people will argue this, it’s pretty much indisputable if you watched the games. Andy has had significantly better protection and a much better running game. Having said that the offense is playing well and no change should be made at this time. But that doesn’t in any way mean I’m completely giving up on a QB who played pretty well last year (albeit nursed conservatively by Payton) and played behind a less effective OL along with broken vertebrae in his back this year.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 11:05 pm
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 6:43 am to
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But sure, he got a real chance.



Totally agree. He's only had 8 years worth of chances and in no way shape or form....gave us the same results as before.

We should give him another 3-4 years minimum.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 6:45 am to
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The "lie" is that he never got a real chance. Someone here is heavily to blame for this narrative and we all know who. JW got his chance. He has been benched. Perhaps he can gain glory from a nfl team that..."finally gives him a chance to shine".



Sir he had one good game last year so we should give him a lifetime contract!!!
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