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re: Saints offseason discussion thread
Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:33 pm to BeachSaints83
Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:33 pm to BeachSaints83
Harper ain't going anywhere. He's the least of our worries on defense.
Our front 7 is gonna see a lot of changes. We're gonna have to retool most of our d-line. I don't see how we can keep paying Will Smith the type of money he's making. I'm not sure if Franklin or Rogers are gonna wanna come back. Whoever the new D coordinator is gonna be might not want either of them. I like Galette, but he was GW pet project. Jordan is really the only guy I can say for certain will be back.
I see Casillas, Wilson, and Dunbar staying. Vilma...I'm not so sure about. Herring and Shanle...pffftttt...
Our front 7 is gonna see a lot of changes. We're gonna have to retool most of our d-line. I don't see how we can keep paying Will Smith the type of money he's making. I'm not sure if Franklin or Rogers are gonna wanna come back. Whoever the new D coordinator is gonna be might not want either of them. I like Galette, but he was GW pet project. Jordan is really the only guy I can say for certain will be back.
I see Casillas, Wilson, and Dunbar staying. Vilma...I'm not so sure about. Herring and Shanle...pffftttt...
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:41 pm to lacajun069
I understand that Harper is a liability in pass coverage, but he plays a pretty good game otherwise. He plays well against the run, and can pressure the QB.
Is it within reason to try to beef him up a little, if necessary, and play him at weakside linebacker. Then bring in a safety better in pass coverage?
Is it within reason to try to beef him up a little, if necessary, and play him at weakside linebacker. Then bring in a safety better in pass coverage?
Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:50 pm to Patrick O Rly
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Harper ain't going anywhere. He's the least of our worries on defense
He's too one dimensional at a position that requires multi-dimension talents. Most importantly you can not be a safety in the NFL and have terrible coverage skills. Harper is out of position too often in the secondary.
Yes, Jenkins got burned a few times yesterday, but he was left alone on those plays with Davis. I'm not ready to write him off yet based off of a down year; remember that last season he was nationally touted as the next great safety.
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Our front 7 is gonna see a lot of changes
I sure hope so
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I don't see how we can keep paying Will Smith the type of money he's making
agreed
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I'm not sure if Franklin or Rogers are gonna wanna come back
Rogers has said he wants to play here. Frankly I haven't seen anything about.
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I like Galette, but he was GW pet project.
He was our most consistent pass rush this year. He's going nowhere. There's a very bright future for him
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I see Casillas, Wilson, and Dunbar staying. Vilma...I'm not so sure about. Herring and Shanle...pffftttt...
Vilma's going nowhere. He played through injury and still played well (not to his past standards but hey, injuries do that). I'm not sure what people are seeing to say that he didn't, but I think it's more the "speak because it sounds good not because it's true" syndrome. Dunbar played nicely in his absence, but he was not better than Vilma.
Herring was a waste and Shanle has been for a while. We need to find a star at this position. It has been ignored long enough.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 4:25 pm to eyeran
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We HAVE to get a better 4 man pass rush. NOBODY on the roster gets close to the QB without blitzing.
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This moron agrees plus 100000000000000000000000000
We HAVE to get a better 4 man pass rush. NOBODY on the roster gets close to the QB without blitzing.
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This moron agrees plus 100000000000000000000000000
Posted on 1/15/12 at 5:16 pm to TutHillTiger
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We HAVE to get a better 4 man pass rush. NOBODY on the roster gets close to the QB without blitzing.
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true dat
Posted on 1/16/12 at 7:52 am to supatigah
My fear is that we will have hugh FA problems. Brees, Clolston, Arrington, Nicks for starters.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 8:53 am to eyeran
if roman harper is our starting safety next year then we will not win 8 games, i like the guy but he is absolutely terrible! every big gain Davis had was from him missing a takcle in the open field.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:38 am to judge
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My fear is that we will have hugh FA problems. Brees, Clolston, Arrington, Nicks for starters.
We need to resign Brees first. I know not as easy as it sounds. Hopefully we won't have to use the tag on him. Then we can try to re-up Nicks, then franchise Colston, because if we don't he will walk. Somebody is going to give him big money.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 10:39 am to supatigah
quote:Colston regressed?
Could the saints lose Colston and still be ok? I think so, especially with the emergence of graham. Colston seemed to regress a little bit this year
I definitely don't think they over pay for Colston
You have to give me some evidence on this one, I actually thought it was one of his best seasons minus the injury, but that made it all the more impressive how strong he was after it
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:33 pm to LsuSaintsMan
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:30 pm to metalmover
Roman will punch you with his Super Bowl ring for this.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 11:05 pm to Midget Death Squad
I'd hate to see Vilma go, but I believe he is due $5 mil next season. Dunbar has played well in Vilma's absence and would be cheaper.
After Spag for DC, who would be next choice, Del Rio or Nolan?
After Spag for DC, who would be next choice, Del Rio or Nolan?
Posted on 1/16/12 at 11:08 pm to metalmover
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every big gain Davis had was from him missing a takcle in the open field.
give the replay a watch
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:21 am to metalmover
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if roman harper is our starting safety next year then we will not win 8 games
Wow...seriously stop posting. Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:24 am to saintsfan92612
metalmover gets a datty of the week nomination, what was the name for that category?
Posted on 1/17/12 at 11:26 am to metalmover
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every big gain Davis had was from him missing a takcle in the open field.
wow.... I don't know, maybe every big play was because Jenkins was in single coverage on Davis? Well all except the one in which it was Harper and Jenkins came in for the tackle and caused two missed tackles at the same time.
....I'm not hating on Jenkins by the way. He should never have been put in single coverage that often on one of the best TE's in the game
Posted on 1/17/12 at 11:48 am to Midget Death Squad
i think he was talking about the 2nd to last big play before the TD at the end.
Jenkins came up and took a horrible angle(he wasnt covering Davis, he was playing deep) and Davis was able to rip off 20 extra yards. It's a small thing no one is talking about. It would have been huge considering the time and where it would have put them on the field.
Jenkins came up and took a horrible angle(he wasnt covering Davis, he was playing deep) and Davis was able to rip off 20 extra yards. It's a small thing no one is talking about. It would have been huge considering the time and where it would have put them on the field.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 5:20 pm to Lester Earl
I can already tell this is going to be the longest off-season of all time.
Posted on 1/19/12 at 1:34 pm to Laaz2750
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I can already tell this is going to be the longest off-season of all time.
Most definitely....
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:10 pm to Lafayette VooDoo
walterfootball.com has the saints taking sean spence from miami in the 2nd round. js
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