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re: Saints defiant after military vet declines honor

Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:30 am to
Thanks Saints. Great letter - you really stuck it to that little veteran guy. When I crave a rude display of arrogance and hubris from a gigantic organization of butt- hurt pseudo-political Progressive dilettantes, I know where to go .
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:31 am to
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Of course they can but it is rather stupid to attack the veteran they intended to honor


you seem to not understand their fricked up priorities

I think these twats love football more than their own families...if they even have families

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:33 am to
Why don't they do more for inner city, why don't they protest gun violence etc.

Still doesn't make my point invalid.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:35 am to
exactly.

no one protested the violence in NOLA when will smith got himself killed.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
178939 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:37 am to
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3. Grown people crossing their arms and hmphing over what other grown people do is pathetic. America isn't a residential neighborhood, and we're not all part of the HOA.


THe NFL is worse than a HOA.


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4. People should pay attention to what the players are protesting, because it's not merely a race issue. Some yuckhead cop could mess up or kill a family member of yours and it's next to impossible to get them prosecuted. If you're lucky you'll get a settlement, which is also messed up because we have to pay for it. Regardless of what you believe about how race is involved or the frequency of these incidents, how they play out is not right.





So this is about police brutality? Please say so. Cause if fans who bring facts to the podium that their arguments are based on horse shite and boo them because they disagree with their attention whoring protest then you say "oh man this isn't about disrespecting the flag shite".
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
6084 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:38 am to
I find it astonishing that protesters and the protesters of protesters fail to realize that they are being manipulated by the media. The media will not stop playing one side of the country against the other until we tear ourselves apart and there's no one left to tune in.

Aren't you people tired of being used? When did we become a country where someone's opinion affected our day-to-day lives?

And why can't they leave football out of this shite?
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6506 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:40 am to
Going after a veteran is a dumb move by the Saints organization.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:40 am to
This has exactly zero to do with my original point but ok.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:41 am to
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Whether you agree with their position or not It isn't really that far-fetched to belive that a bunch of black players think the black community is treated unfairly by police. You by no means have to agree with them but to say a majority are doing it just the hell of it pretty far fetched.



I'm sure every single one of them is able to give an articulate, well reasoned answer to why they are doing it. I have zero beef with people who protest while also understanding why they are actually protesting and being able to argue their point. I disagree with Kaep, but atleast he's putting arguments and money out there.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:41 am to
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not It isn't really that far-fetched to belive that a bunch of black players think the black community is treated unfairly by police.


They should stand arm to arm with the police and make statements that way by leading the black people to trust and respect the police. Kneeling against them creates environments of mistrusts which only makes matters worse. They are so fricking stupid, they are making their own company lose money hand over fists which is only going to affect the salary cap and money in their pockets down the road.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:44 am to
Once again you don't have to agree with how they protest or what they are protesting. There are many other ways and many other issues that they could be focusing on. But to say the players are doing it just to do it and have no idea why they are doing is a stretch.

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They should stand arm to arm with the police


This what the Browns did. To bad it was the Browns and only 100 people in attendance and the 5 people watching on TV saw it. This may have been the high watermark for the Browns season.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110929 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:48 am to
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Once again you don't have to agree with how they protest or what they are protesting. There are many other ways and many other issues that they could be focusing on. But to say the players are doing it just to do it and have no idea why they are doing is a stretch.



You choose a symbolic "protest", you run the risk of people misinterpreting your "message."

In other words, you reap what you sow.

Sad situation that should have never happened and wouldn't have under the right leadership.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178939 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:49 am to
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But to say the players are doing it just to do it and have no idea why they are doing is a stretch.


point being is that they aren't doing a very good job of explaining specifics of what and why they are protesting. To just give a blanket "social injustice" statement is bullshite. If the fans dont' understand what you are protesting then there's zero reason for the protest.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71061 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:56 am to
Unfortunate, disappointing, and divisive that this guy didn't accept their moronic, fake arse award?

Losers. He didn't ask to put in this position, and when he has an opinion that hurts your pussy, you call him out?

frick you, saints.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:04 am to
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what's sad is they didn't really give 2 shits when will smith got clipped for keeping it a little 2 realz


A lot of Saints players lamented after his death about the violence in New Orleans.

The difference is the perpetrators in black on black violence tend to get prosecuted.

Good luck getting a grand jury to indict a cop. “I feared for my life” seems to work pretty well.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8149 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:06 am to
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hey are so fricking stupid, they are making their own company lose money hand over fists which is only going to affect the salary cap and money in their pockets down the road.


This x 1000. They are killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Most NFL fans are middle class white people who won't a break from reality. They won't keep spending their money with political protests going on at the game.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:07 am to
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The difference is the perpetrators in black on black violence tend to get prosecuted.
you don't live in new Orleans

the DA used to have a rule that if he didn't have an indictment in 30 days, they throw it away, it's forgotten.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:07 am to
Is anyone kind of excited to not have the People's Health Award given out this week at the game. The video they play is absurdly fricking loud.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76447 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:10 am to
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The difference is the perpetrators in black on black violence tend to get prosecuted.


Is this rate vastly higher than the prosecution rate for white on white violence?

And do cops who shoot whites get it easy at a vastly higher rate than when shooting non whites?

Just observing here in P'cola over the years the cops get off on most all shootings no matter the target.
Posted by GoRuckTiger
Bossie City
Member since Aug 2013
1562 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:18 am to
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The. Protests. Are. Not. About. Disrespecting. The. Military.


How can anyone with the least bit of intelligence not think that protesting during the national anthem would not end up being divisive? Seriously, of all times to protest why would you choose the national anthem unless you were trying to get a certain response? In all honesty how can anyone not understand how that would not piss a lot of people off? If we are honest with each other I think we can agree that most people are standing out of respect during the anthem as a show of reverence and thanks to those who currently serve, who have served, and most especially to those who gave all? It's amazing this has to be explained.

I'm all for people's right to protest anything their heart chooses. I fully understand what the players are protesting about. I don't agree with them because the facts do not support their claim. Again they have the right to protest but they were naive as to think that %100 of the population was going to support their cause and the way they went about their protest. The players chose to make that one small moment, but so very important to a majority of people, about them and it should never be about individuality. Reap what you sow.
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