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re: Saints at the top of Davante Adams wish list per Schefter
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:26 pm to Proximo
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:26 pm to Proximo
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The “inconsistency” is due to the shite oline. The only actual bad pass I recall is the one to Kamara running to the flat against the falcons.
There was another shite throw in the direction of Shaheed on a deep curl that landed 4 yards in front of him. The throw was so bad that during the broadcast Vilma thought the ball was tipped but the replay showed it wasn't.
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:36 pm to htran90
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Adams signed a 5/140mil deal. After this year, he would have received 3 years/67.5mil (roughly) - his total guaranteed was 65.67mil
Pretty sure after this year, nothing is guaranteed. So you could just cut him. 2nd rounder is too pricey for a rental though
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:46 pm to FredbullTN
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Let’s face it. Our offense revolves around a ex QB whose physical play style has gotten him injured twice already this season. Our only RB that is worth a damn also has broken ribs. Olave is probably a #2 and Shaheed is a deep threat. Our TE room is non existent.
The Saints lead the NFL in offensive plays out of 2 WR sets. It's not because of creativity, it's because of lack of depth & talent at the position. Kubiak has had to do this out of necessity. If the offense doesn't stay ahead of the sticks on the early downs, it becomes extremely difficult to convert 3rd downs which are the money downs. Adams gives you a legit option to go to on 3rd & more than 5. His presence will also open up the field for Shaheed, Olave & Kamara in the pass game. An addition of Adams opens up the offense more than some in this thread realizes.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:50 pm to tucoco
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Do you think that will solve Carr's inconsistency?? I've watched Carr last season and now at the start of this season and for a guy that's been in the league now as long as he has, he still plays like a rookie in some instances when he passing the ball with throwing the dumbest passes sometimes. Smh
Carr has played very well this year.
He's functioned fairly well with people in his face, and he was great when the protection has held up.
Complaining about Carr's play is bizarre.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:00 pm to moneyg
I’m sure we can’t do it because of the cap nor do I know the ramifications. But wouldn’t trading Lattimore make more sense? I’m sure we would have traded him for a 2nd if it was offered in the offseason. Raiders want a 2nd but likely won’t get that. Both are aging players that are probably overpaid but still very good.
We have good depth at corner and need to pay the young guys coming up.
We have good depth at corner and need to pay the young guys coming up.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:02 pm to WicKed WayZ
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I’m out. He’s 32. He’s going to want an extension and we already have cap problems. And ultimately I don’t think he’s going to push you to contender status considering some of the other issues we have as a team: no pass rush, terrible run defense, piss poor OL.
Exactly. It’s just not realistic or prudent. This isn’t madden with the salary cap off. He’s a luxury that simply isn’t realistic to us if we’re being smart.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:07 pm to St Augustine
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He’s a luxury that simply isn’t realistic to us if we’re being smart.
Loomis hasn't done anything smart to significantly reduce the Saints cap space in YEARS. He just manages it to get under every season so why should anyone expect smart cap decisions at this point?
Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:14 pm to BigBrod81
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Adams gives you a legit option to go to on 3rd & more than 5. His presence will also open up the field for Shaheed, Olave & Kamara in the pass game. An addition of Adams opens up the offense more than some in this thread realizes.
You're assuming, of course, that the Saints OL can keep the defensive players out of the backfield long enough for Carr to actually make a somewhat accurate throw.
Right now, with Kamara's broken ribs and Taysom already having been injured twice, we don't have the short-yardage runners to keep the defense honest and worried about a ground attack. Adams or no Adams, the lack of a decent running attack paired with a depleted and overmatched OL will probably be the doom of this team.
And, even if you assume that the OL plays well enough for Carr to actually get the ball to Adams once or twice, the easy fix is to simply double him and take him off the field as a target. It's not like the rest of our offense scares anyone right now.
So, sorry, I don't think Adams' upside can make up for the other glaring problems on offense. Not worth the money at this point, and IMO would only serve to perpetuate the draft and cap hell the Saints have been suffering with for over a decade now.
Better to roll the dice with what we have, hope for the best, and start improving both our cap hell (not making it worse) and our mediocre draft hell.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:05 pm to FireGoodell
We have nobody at WR outside of Olave and Shaheed and Olave is not a #1. Get it done.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:08 pm to hg
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Olave is not a #1. Get it done.
He’s been the best receiver in the NFL as far as getting separation this year.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:11 pm to MetArl15
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This would be fun, but it makes no sense
Yup
A 2nd for a 1 year rental? No. But if something else works well...
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:11 pm to bee Rye
Precisely. Not spending a 2nd on a 1 year rental
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:12 pm to Dotarian
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You're assuming, of course, that the Saints OL can keep the defensive players out of the backfield long enough for Carr to actually make a somewhat accurate throw.
The Saints also lead the NFL in passing plays out of play action. So unless it's a blitz with a free rusher, the fake should free up enough time if Carr throws in rhythm.
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And, even if you assume that the OL plays well enough for Carr to actually get the ball to Adams once or twice
The last 2 games, 3rd down & redzone has been problematic for the offense. Do you even realize that even 2-3 times to Adams on crucial 3rd downs or redzone trips could be the difference between a win & a loss?
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the easy fix is to simply double him and take him off the field as a target. It's not like the rest of our offense scares anyone right now
You do realize that bracketing or doubling Adams would open up the field for Shaheed & Olave over the top as well in the intermediate zones, right? It would also open up things for Kamara underneath.
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So, sorry, I don't think Adams' upside can make up for the other glaring problems on offense.
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So, sorry, I don't think Adams' upside can make up for the other glaring problems on offense.
You are wrong. The defense has played more than well enough to win the last 2 weeks. Most NFL games are decided by one score or less. Like some have already mentioned the NFC is wide open right now. Even with the injuries currently on the offensive line, a weapon like Adams provides another weapon for the offense down the field. This was a problem prior to the injuries that was eventually going to pop up as the season progressed.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:15 pm to FireGoodell
You cannot give up a draft pick for this player; at least not anything in rounds
1 thru 5.
Forget the aging players that cost way too much in salary
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:25 pm to MetArl15
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Acquiring an aging WR won’t materially change that ceiling and it will perhaps hamstring efforts to draft young talent that can raise the ceiling in the future.
Like Turner, Davenport, Penning, Miller and all the other draft picks that were wasted? You know what you're getting in an NFL caliber receiver with Adams. Trust this scouting department in front office to draft a receiver next year? At Perry is working out great.....
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:38 pm to Shaq4prez
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Like Turner, Davenport, Penning, Miller and all the other draft picks that were wasted?
Or like Olave, Fuaga, Kool-aid and McCoy and all the other picks they’ve actually hit on
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:42 pm to BigBrod81
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Loomis hasn't done anything smart to significantly reduce the Saints cap space in YEARS. He just manages it to get under every season so why should anyone expect smart cap decisions at this point?
This offseason suggested a move towards financial freedom
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:46 pm to purplepylon
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I say no thanks, we need the draft picks next year
And a position of need will be wide receiver. Why not get a star receiver now to play with your young talent that is also familiar with the guy throwing him the ball?
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:47 pm to GynoSandberg
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This offseason suggested a move towards financial freedom
So this is where we are now? This is Coach O's hope & pray philosophy.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:51 pm to Froman
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Why not get a star receiver now to play with your young talent that is also familiar with the guy throwing him the ball?
Exactly. Plus you are stuck with Carr for the time being. Why not trade for his security blanket to go along with Olave & Shaheed who Carr has become comfortable with too?
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