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Payton on Colin Cowherd this morning (troubling)
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:34 pm
Colin has Payton on regularly and this morning Colin brought up Taysom. Payton had this to day:
1. He texted Loomis about Taysom's performance because they are "best friends." - this is already setting the stage for a minimal trade return
2. Payton said when he's back in 1-2 years coaching - literally means he'll be back next year
3. He will take Taysom off Loomis' hands - Payton better look to trade for the moon for his pet project, but Loomis will probably trade Taysom and a 3rd for a 5th.
1. He texted Loomis about Taysom's performance because they are "best friends." - this is already setting the stage for a minimal trade return
2. Payton said when he's back in 1-2 years coaching - literally means he'll be back next year
3. He will take Taysom off Loomis' hands - Payton better look to trade for the moon for his pet project, but Loomis will probably trade Taysom and a 3rd for a 5th.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 4:06 pm
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:36 pm to LSUZombie
I don't find any of that troubling.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:40 pm to LSUZombie
Yeah, none of that is troubling and most of it is already known
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:50 pm to CP3forMVP
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I don't find any of that troubling.
The troubling part is his best friend relationship with Loomis and how this will impact the return we get for him.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:53 pm to LSUZombie
Most troubling part would be Taysom Hill no longer being a Saint. He is the most winning football player we have on the team. He’s also the most likable.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:54 pm to LSUZombie
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3. He will take Taysom off Loomis' hands - Payton better look to trade for the moon for his pet project, but Payton will probably trade Taysom and a 3rd for a 5th.
come again?
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:54 pm to 3PieceSpicy
If we think this is gonna be our last season with taysom, ride him hard
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:00 pm to LSUZombie
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1. He texted Loomis about Taysom's performance because they are "best friends." - this is already setting he stage for a minimal trade return
I've literally said on this board countless times this is going to happen and I get tons of downvotes every time.
Payton is the best coach in the history of this franchise. Loomis, Dennis and Gail are not going to frick him. They just won't. They want to keep that relationship strong. We as fans don't care, but they will. Could we still get a decent return? Sure. Would we get a better return if he left on bad terms? ABSOLUTELY.
Sean is going to be in their ear so fast once these talks start happening. Hell, he probably is now. He wants to succeed at his next stop. He needs assets for that. He won't have them if his next team give them all to us for him. He knows that. He will absolutely try every schmoozing tactic he can to make sure we don't trade rape his next team.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:04 pm to LSUZombie
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He will take Taysom off Loomis' hands - Payton better look to trade for the moon for his pet project,
I don't think we can afford to trade Taysom, ironically, b/c of Payton's man crush on him and the terrible contract Hill got
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think we can afford to trade Taysom, ironically, b/c of Payton's man crush on him and the terrible contract Hill got
It's literally impossible to post a more stupid thought than what you continually do regarding Taysom's contract.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think we can afford to trade Taysom, ironically, b/c of Payton's man crush on him and the terrible contract Hill got
It's more because Loomis included him in the contract adjustments last offseason. If we hadn't done that, he would be more cuttable.
As it is right now, he is not cuttable or tradeable next offseason. $24M Dead cap hit if we do. 2024 it's more doable.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:09 pm to Rand AlThor
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As it is right now, he is not cuttable or tradeable next offseason. $24M Dead cap hit if we do. 2024 it's more doable.
why are we in any sort of predicament getting rid of literally one of the few offensive weapons helping us WIN football games? We're 0-5 without taysom this year.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:09 pm to LSUZombie
The only thing troubling here is your retardation
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:10 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Most troubling part would be Taysom Hill no longer being a Saint. He is the most winning football player we have on the team. He’s also the most likable.
For some reason though the posters here at ST hate on Taysom. It's the oddest thing.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:10 pm to LSUZombie
Hill is 32.
He won't have much value.
He won't have much value.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:10 pm to Chad504boy
Did I say anywhere that it's something we should do? The OP has information about Sean wanting to trade for him. I'm just stating the facts about his cap hits. Relax boss.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:22 pm to Rand AlThor
Per OTC trading him pre-June 1st would be a net wash on the cap (saves about $50k) as the next team would have to take on the guaranteed salary. If they wait until after 6/01, they can reduce his 2023 cap hit to $4M you just wouldn't get the immediate draft capital.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:26 pm to Tiger985
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Hill is 32.
so is mark ingram. one is arse and the other is incredible.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:45 pm to Rand AlThor
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It's more because Loomis included him in the contract adjustments last offseason. If we hadn't done that, he would be more cuttable.
Yeah that's the thing with his contract. We have to reduce the overpay (in terms of cap hit) every year, which makes the pro-rated portion that much bigger (making a potential cut that much harsher). It's a monster that's been building for a few years.
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As it is right now, he is not cuttable or tradeable next offseason. $24M Dead cap hit if we do. 2024 it's more doable.
It's more doable if we don't have to restructure him, but we will have to restructure him b/c of the $24M hit.
So it goes on and on for perpetuity
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:47 pm to Chad504boy
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why are we in any sort of predicament getting rid of literally one of the few offensive weapons helping us WIN football games?
He's not worth his $10M average cap hit, let alone a $24M cap hit.
$24M is a nice price for an elite WR1
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