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Man Drew Brees really made Sean look good

Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
3699 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:47 pm
…maybe Sean was different 14 years ago. Maybe Drew really led this team.
Posted by higgsBoson
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Member since Jan 2012
1611 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:03 pm to
Someone else here said it. They needed each other. He hasn’t proven he can win without elite QB play like Shanahan has though. He’s a really good coach but not a top 5 coach like we thought.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14552 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:17 pm to
Belichick has been exposed as well. Without Brady, his teams have been pretty bad
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12471 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:34 am to
early Brady needed those Belichick defenses.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:54 am to
Sean Payton getting exposed for the fraud he is
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:01 am to
Or is he purposely tanking so he can draft the qb he wants? ?? Sean playing chess while rest of league plays checkers. I mean the dude is basically putting the players on the team for sale if not just cutting them out right.
Posted by higgsBoson
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 2:06 am to
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Or is he purposely tanking so he can draft the qb he wants? ?? Sean playing chess while rest of league plays checkers. I mean the dude is basically putting the players on the team for sale if not just cutting them out right.



Might be, would be smart to tank (depends on guaranteed money for Wilson). But then why’d he trash the previous coach? Didn’t sound like a guy tempering expectations…
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6652 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 3:26 am to
With his ego? No, he's not tanking purposely. Russ is horrible though.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62902 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:25 am to
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But then why’d he trash the previous coach? Didn’t sound like a guy tempering expectations…


I think it’s the opposite.

He knew he was in trouble. Denver was a disaster when he arrived. All of their money is in a player that is now below average.

He was trying to set the stage of who gets the blame.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14980 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:40 am to
I said it on here when a few people really wanted Wilson. But he showed signs of falling off in Seattle. Not all QBs last into their late 30’s like Brees and Brady.

I think Sean also lost some of his fire years ago. You could kinda see it with us the last few years. That being said, I’d still take him over Allen everyday of the week.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 6:42 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14980 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:50 am to
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They needed each other. He hasn’t proven he can win without elite QB play like Shanahan has though


Guess we forgot his winning record with a season of Winston, Simian, Hill, and Book starting. And practice squad level receivers starting. I’d say that’s pretty impressive in hindsight.
Posted by armytiger33
Vestavia Hills, Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
718 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:53 am to
I think he really messed up by taking the Denver job. RW is not DB. I think he is gonna fizzle out in Denver and won’t be a HC in the nfl after this ends. He doesn’t have the flexibility in Denver he had in NO. He could have stayed in NO and been mediocre for 10 years and not been fired. He will be back in announcing and won’t get another opportunity
Posted by JRE1980
Member since Aug 2020
545 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:53 am to
So are his post-game interviews the same as always?

"Well look, listen, we have to clean some things up."
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76348 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:59 am to
Did you hear the story about he and his agent contacting Miami while coaching the Saints?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21658 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:21 am to
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Might be, would be smart to tank (depends on guaranteed money for Wilson)

Looks like they are locked with Wilson through 2025.

2024: Fully guaranteed salary, and $18.4M bonus money: Cap Hit $35.4M
2025: $37M salary is fully guaranteed in 2024; so unless they want an $85M dead cap hit in 2024, he's there through 2025 w a $37M salary, and $55M cap w/ bonuses
2026: Can walk w $31M dead cap from bonuses
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
2196 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:44 am to
My hot take here is that Pete Carroll is an insanely good coach, especially QB coach. Maybe Russ was never that good, but Pete hid his flaws and set him up for success. My proof, look at what fricken Geno Smith is doing in Seattle.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19516 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:54 am to
Russ was a good improviser ... he lost that years ago. What is left is a below average QB
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130061 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:57 am to
CSP should have held out for the Chargers job like we all said.

That roster is pretty good with a very good QB, just needs a HC.

And its in LA.

Stupid stupid to take the Broncos job
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23650 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:00 am to
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Stupid stupid to take the Broncos job



But thanks for the 2nd round pick!
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
965 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:18 am to
Russell was 11-2 int-td ratio with an 106 rating before yesterday he's doing the best with the scraps he has…


What’s alarming is Russell stat’s looking good while the defense plays bad.. says something about Brees’ career there
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