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re: Is Tyler Shough Derangement Syndrome becoming a thing?

Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:24 am to
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:24 am to
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Is Tyler Shough Derangement Syndrome becoming a thing?


Honestly, this is the only pick that I thought was bad from this draft. I much rather would have gotten Tre Harris from Ole Miss or Burden from Mizzou.
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:30 am to
amongst failcon fans and shadeur apologists, so worried about the Saints picking him instead if sanders kid
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:33 am to
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I don’t think he is going to be good but I’m 110 percent pulling for him to be our franchise guy




logically as a fan, this pov doesn't make much sense to me, Auggie.

I truly believe if he wins the starting QB spot in camp, then he can become our starting QB for the future. I'm not expecting Brees or Manning, but a Joe Flacco or Carson Palmer career arc would be better expectations.

But I will agree that I'm not going to say he is definitely going to be a good franchise QB until I actually see him play a good amount of games.

Now if we drafted him at #40 and we still had our previous coaching staff I would have almost zero confidence in his development.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:34 am to
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I much rather would have gotten Tre Harris from Ole Miss or Burden from Mizzou.


so tre drops all the way to 55 and burden was picked before our selection you are complaining about. that's your biggest gripe about the draft?
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3667 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:35 am to
And I’m pretty sure this board clowned Sean and the falcons for their picks last year. Now they’re using the picks to justify our stupid organization. It’s amazing to see these mental gymnastics in real time
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:38 am to
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logically as a fan, this pov doesn't make much sense to me, Auggie.


You don’t think the best of bad qb options could be subpar by nfl standards?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:41 am to
Spending a top 15 pick on a QB vs 40th overall are two different gambles.

Those 1st can potentially be all pro caliber guys often times. The 2nd is a lesser investment (even though I agree you should find a starter caliber guy in the 2nd).

As for people who compare this to signing Carr, there's 100million reasons this is elss of a risk. You can move on from Shough without it destroying your current or future cap.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:42 am to
This thread delivers!
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3667 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:57 am to
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Spending a top 15 pick on a QB vs 40th overall are two different gambles.



Yea Penix was the most productive QB in CFB and Shough was the least productive QB in the draft.

Two different gambles
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:10 pm to
And almost the entire league, pundits and fans including atl fans razzed them for the pick.
Posted by Jaydenbetter
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:16 pm to
Same guys tryna be right about sanders . Least it’s not about race lol
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10859 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:31 pm to
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our selection you are complaining about


Im not complaining. Just giving my opinion.

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that's your biggest gripe about the draft?


Yeah. I thought the first pick was solid and the other picks were good. Harris would have been a better pickup IMO.

I forgot that LB3 was the pick before ours. Still, I would rather have had a good WR over a QB that played in CFB for 7 years and was injury prone. Not with the #40 pick and when the QB class is supposed to be better next year.
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2455 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:37 pm to
It’s easy to shite on the Foskey pick in hindsight, but if he had panned out nobody would be saying shite even with Branch being a stud. For most prospects nobody really knows how they will pan out. If Shough ends up being good that will be viewed as the steal of the draft.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10420 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:45 pm to
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It’s easy to shite on the Foskey pick in hindsight, but if he had panned out nobody would be saying shite even with Branch being a stud. For most prospects nobody really knows how they will pan out. If Shough ends up being good that will be viewed as the steal of the draft.


This is what bothers me the most. We have basically set fire to a second round pick every year and yet these picks are usually heralded or at least seen as fine until the player eventually busts. And yet we use a 2nd on a QB and everyone loses their minds just because of the position
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:46 pm to
I personally don't think he will amount to anything but maybe a 2nd stringer at best. I hope I'm dead wrong, but if you have watched college football and saw him play, drafting him early in the 2nd round is a head scratcher. I would have liked to use that pick on something much better for the team.

I'll be pulling for him, but I don't think there is a 5% chance he is our future starting QB.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:11 pm to
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We just drafted a QB who will be 26 when the season starts
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More likely they know this is a buffer year, and it’s worth the investment to get someone some experience so we can win soon.

When he's knocking on 30?

getting a little lose with the math there. Will be 26 when the season starts, add a buffer year from the "win now" mindset, and suddenly he's 30?

quote:

There is no logical sense in sitting Shough for 1-3 years to develop so that he finally starts at 29-30.

Also, where did I say he has to wait to start until his rookie contract is over. I specifically mentioned getting some experience, at what point will he get that experience if he's sitting until he's 29-30 like you tried to interpret?
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
3112 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Except availability and accuracy

He's plenty accurate. Do you even know his circumstances? He missed the Covid year, one of the injured years he broke his collar bone. They let it heal naturally instead of actually repairing it so when he was supposedly good to go it broke again. That's when they actually went in and surgically repaired it. So that's two years with the same injury because it should have been taken care of by doctors better and one Covid year. Can we stop acting like he's made of glass? Y'all are red assed and don't even know what's really going on.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:18 pm to
I think people have catastrophe syndrome around this team. Carr has been such a financial black hole alongside Ram and Cam Jordan’s contract, there’s just so much dead money. People don’t see any hope, and sorta don’t want to. Shough just doesn’t have enough flashiness to make people believe he can turn the ship around like Jayden did for Washington last year. In fact, NONE of the QBs in this year’s draft appear to have that potential. I understand why fans would rather just roll with Rattler or Jameis, stock up on other positions, and tank for a QB next year if Rattler’s not the guy.

Fans have been burnt time and time again by these injury prone early round picks that never see the field.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 1:19 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70915 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:42 pm to
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People don’t see any hope, and sorta don’t want to. Shough just doesn’t have enough flashiness to make people believe he can turn the ship around like Jayden did for Washington last year


It’s not even that for me. It’s strictly a numbers thing. Where he was drafted the chances of him being a great qb are simply very low. I hope I’m wrong and pulling for the guy. It just rarely happens. Yes I know there are rare outliers. Just looking at the probably outcome.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Member since Nov 2012
25617 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Reason is difficult for this board.


Reason or reasoning?
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