re: I want LB Murray or Queen at pick 24

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He didn’t start at the beginning of the year but by the end of the season had emerged as the best LB on the best LB corps in LSU history.

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Jones started the entire year start to finish, and played good start to finish. Did not start on the bench, then played average to ok then had a few good games at the end of the season. And we didn’t take him in the first like many want to do on here.

And now you just proved you have no idea what you are talking about. Best lb corps in LSU history??? That’s laughable. One member made first team all sec, and he could almost be considered an end because it was for his pass rushing. Not one lb made all American. Think I’d take last years corps that you know had the BEST linebacker in the entire nation, the Butkus award winner, on it. Or how about the 2001 team that had two all American linebackers by the name of Trev Faulk and Bradie James on it.

This linebacker corps made a true freshman quarterback making his what 3rd or 4th start look like Michael Vick on steroids. The best ever LMAO. You know nothing.

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Oklahoma made LSU’s 5th string RB look like marshawn Lynch. Is that Kenneth Murray’s fault?

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And? I’ve said a few different times I wouldn’t touch him in the first either. And if I’m going off memory wasn’t OU down to backup safeties and corners in the game due to injuries and suspensions. Pretty sure they were more worried about dealing with the passing attack with a bunch of backups than a run game with a 5th string rb as u say.

What was the excuse for not stopping Vandy whose rb went over 100 and averaged over 6 yards a carry and the debacle Ole Miss game?

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I'm far from the type that wants every LSU player, but there were quite a few people on the Rant that thought Queen would never leave early or would be stupid to do so because he'd be a 3rd round pick at best. They've been proven completely wrong, and I think some of those types are bleeding over here.

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Do you think they'll argue like this over Kevin Dotson's pro potential?

All SEC teams are a popularity contests. I don’t put any stock into them

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All SEC teams are a popularity contests. I don’t put any stock into them

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Unless it suits your argument

This is the year to trade back.

Yep it’s way more likely we move up than move down.


If we move up I think it will be in front of the Eagles or Raiders

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I’m not just saying random shite, Ole miss and Vandy ran wild in us and that’s usually on the linebackers to stop it. So help me understand, Queen was good enough to start for White as a sophomore when suspended, but not good enough to start as a junior at the beginning of the year especially if he was the best player on the field that Bama game as a poster stated?

I thought we ran a 3-4 with Phillips and Queen starting in the middle with Divinity and Chiasson on the outside? Clark usually filled in the middle if one of them was hurt. Please correct me if I’m wrong?

And to your second point, Aranda must be an idiot, posters in here, including you and scouts said how great on coverage he is but he’s the first one off the field in sub packages which is usually passing downs. So we taking a first round nfl prospect that excels in pass defense off the field first? Makes complete sense. Man I’m glad Aranda is gone.

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Alright here we go again.

They moved Michael Divinity to inside linebacker in the spring to play Devin White’s position because Jacob Phillips sucked at getting the calls the in. This led to three man race for the other inside position between Phillips, Queen and Damone Clark.

Phillips, who was a returning starter at the position, got the nod. When that happened, Queen was put at the secondary outside linebacker position. Yes, LSU runs a 3-4, but the majority of their snaps are spent in nickel or a sub package, which meant the position Queen played in, F Linebacker, was the first player off the field for an extra defensive back.

Once Divinity and Chaisson got hurt Queen became the full time second inside linebacker, which began following Vandy.

Now in 2018, Queen started against Alabama because Chaisson was hurt, which meant Divinity was filling in at Buck linebacker, the primary pass rushing OLB, and they had no one else to play the middle beside Damone Clark and they sure as hell weren’t putting a true freshman out there at the time. Ray Thornton and Andre Anthony we’re playing at F, which kept Queen as the primary backup at inside/middle at the end of the 2018 season.

Against Vanderbilt, Vaughn had 20 carries for 130 yards - two runs of 41 and 52 yards accounted for 75% of his yards. He had 18 carries for 37 yards otherwise. Queen was only on the field for the 41 yard run and LSU had rotated its linebackers for the series of the 52 yard run.

Against Ole Miss, as LE said, LSU had a schematic issue that caused problems for them unrelated to anything Queen was doing.

No one has problem with criticizing LSU players, it just happens that you’re completely wrong. If you want to come again with another ill informed comment, I’ll blow that one up too. Queen will be a first round regardless of what you think, where he goes I have no idea.

I watched the two plays that you are referring too. I think he had containment. It definitely isn’t his finest moments but he forced plumlee inside and they should have had players working to the ball to make the tackle. Neither of those was he a step late. Did he over pursue? Yeah probably so but Part of that was to force him inside which he did