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Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:49 pm to Lester Earl
If they are both there at 24, I think I’d take Murray. The Saints need production now and Davis is basically Queen’s ceiling and already on the roster.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:54 pm to Vacherie Saint
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The Saints need production now and Davis is basically Queen’s ceiling and already on the roster.
I'll take the future All-pro then
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:59 pm to saintsfan22
I didn’t realize they both couldn’t be all pros. Thanks for setting us all straight
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:04 pm to Vacherie Saint
I don’t think Murray is any more game ready than Queen but that’s just me
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:21 pm to Lester Earl
You’re probably right. Aranda has proven to have his guys ready for the league. I guess I’m wanting a middle linebacker there. Murray feels like a better fit and I don’t trust Kiko and AA can’t stay healthy.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:01 pm to GynoSandberg
I think I’m getting LSU player fatigue. Every LSU player is so great and can’t miss on this board that most people can’t admit that they have questions.
I think Queen has the ability to be a great LBer in the NFL as long as he stays healthy and can progress. But there are a lot of questions about how good he really is. I’d be happy to get him, I just don’t think he’s the next Vilma or anything.
I think Queen has the ability to be a great LBer in the NFL as long as he stays healthy and can progress. But there are a lot of questions about how good he really is. I’d be happy to get him, I just don’t think he’s the next Vilma or anything.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:07 pm to Suntiger
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I think I’m getting LSU player fatigue. Every LSU player is so great and can’t miss on this board that most people can’t admit that they have questions.
Conversely, every LSU player is over-analyzed because most posters have watched the majority of their games. That's how you end up with people saying Queen wasn't good in random games but won't say that about Murray because they might've watched him 2-3 times.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:12 pm to saintsfan22
I agree with that too.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:18 pm to Suntiger
I hear ya and agree to an extent
I am not an LSU fan fwiw
I am not an LSU fan fwiw
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:22 pm to death valley driver
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:50 pm to Lester Earl
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I don’t think Murray is any more game ready than Queen but that’s just me
There is a point to be made here. The biggest knock on Kenneth murray is his decision making and play recognition. He will sometimes take himself out of the play entirely. This is very concerning to me. Makes me think of Stephone Anthony.
On the other hand, Queen has been praised for his recognition and decision making. Pretty good for a guy that has only been playing the position for 3years. He is also really good in coverage and really started putting it all together towards the end of the season.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:49 pm to DomincDecoco
Watch the LSU bama game. Queen is what you're looking for in a all pro linebacker in the nfl. If we choose murray over Queen we will miss out. Jefferson will be great too. We are in win now not later. We have the pieces on our offense. Make the defense elite.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:04 am to stopitnow1
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Watch the LSU bama game. Queen is what you're looking for in a all pro linebacker in the nfl. If we choose murray over Queen we will miss out. Jefferson will be great too. We are in win now not later. We have the pieces on our offense. Make the defense elite.
Not saying your wrong and Queen played great in the playoffs, but where the hell was he against Vandy, Ole Miss, Texas. They were running right up the middle and all over the defense and I honestly do not remember his name being called those games.
Can’t remember Devin White ever having games where he was a ghost like that. All pro’s don’t disappear like that. That’s why I don’t trust taking him in the first....
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:06 am
Posted on 3/30/20 at 3:24 am to Townedrunkard
Texas he didn’t start and had six tackles
Vandy he started at outside linebacker and once Divinity got hurt, Danone Clark was put in so Queen didn’t play that much. It wasn’t until the following game that Queen became a full-time starter
Ole Miss he had nine tackles and one TFL
You’re just saying random shite with nothing to back it up because you have this weird opinion that he shouldn’t be a first round pick when he’s likely to be picked before the Saints at 24. He’s great in coverage and running sideline to sideline, and does he need to get a little more physical in the run game, yes, but if you’ve got big guys in the middle who can open up gaps and take on blockers, like the saints do, he’ll excel even more.
He sat behind Devin White for two years and hadn’t really played linebacker at all because he was a running back in high school. When he did play it was mostly at outside linebacker, which in LSU’s defense meant he was the first player off the field in sub packages. Finally gets his true shot when Divinity goes down with injury and was absolutely fantastic. Just because you didn’t hear his name doesn’t mean it wasn’t good.
Vandy he started at outside linebacker and once Divinity got hurt, Danone Clark was put in so Queen didn’t play that much. It wasn’t until the following game that Queen became a full-time starter
Ole Miss he had nine tackles and one TFL
You’re just saying random shite with nothing to back it up because you have this weird opinion that he shouldn’t be a first round pick when he’s likely to be picked before the Saints at 24. He’s great in coverage and running sideline to sideline, and does he need to get a little more physical in the run game, yes, but if you’ve got big guys in the middle who can open up gaps and take on blockers, like the saints do, he’ll excel even more.
He sat behind Devin White for two years and hadn’t really played linebacker at all because he was a running back in high school. When he did play it was mostly at outside linebacker, which in LSU’s defense meant he was the first player off the field in sub packages. Finally gets his true shot when Divinity goes down with injury and was absolutely fantastic. Just because you didn’t hear his name doesn’t mean it wasn’t good.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:31 am to Townedrunkard
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Can’t remember Devin White ever having games where he was a ghost like that. All pro’s don’t disappear like that. That’s why I don’t trust taking him in the first....
I really think having Devin White in front of him delayed his development. If 2019 had been his sophomore year and he was coming back, wouldn’t we be expecting Queen to dominate next season? Maybe not like Devin, but close? That’s what GMs and draft experts are seeing when they look at him, and why he’s projected in the 1st round.
That being said, if Sean and Jeff pass on Queen, I’m not gonna bitch. I trust their evaluation more than mine (or any of y’all’s). I hope those of you who don’t want him would feel the same if he IS the pick.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:34 am to Townedrunkard
Players do develops throughout a season especially being that he was a 1 year starter. Vandy and Texas was very early on and everyone on defense played bad against ole miss and as another poster mentioned he had a solid stat line in that game. I much rather a player that finishes strong against top competition over a player that was average throughout the entire season or shined against mediocre talent. I’m not referring to Murray a s being average. He was terrific this is just an example.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:52 am to Mpd31
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Players do develops throughout a season especially being that he was a 1 year starter.
Good thing they didn't judge Burrow after his first season as a starter.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:09 am to stopitnow1
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Queen is what you're looking for in a all pro linebacker in the nfl. If we choose murray over Queen we will miss out.
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StopItnow1
Indeed
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:31 am to fightingtigers98
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He’s great in coverage and running sideline to sideline
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When he did play it was mostly at outside linebacker, which in LSU’s defense meant he was the first player off the field in sub packages
I’m not just saying random shite, Ole miss and Vandy ran wild in us and that’s usually on the linebackers to stop it. So help me understand, Queen was good enough to start for White as a sophomore when suspended, but not good enough to start as a junior at the beginning of the year especially if he was the best player on the field that Bama game as a poster stated?
I thought we ran a 3-4 with Phillips and Queen starting in the middle with Divinity and Chiasson on the outside? Clark usually filled in the middle if one of them was hurt. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
And to your second point, Aranda must be an idiot, posters in here, including you and scouts said how great on coverage he is but he’s the first one off the field in sub packages which is usually passing downs. So we taking a first round nfl prospect that excels in pass defense off the field first? Makes complete sense. Man I’m glad Aranda is gone.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 10:47 am
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