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Future of Ryan Ramczyk

Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:58 pm
Listening to Underhill’s pod today and he mentioned that the knee injury RR has is degenerative and will not get better. He’s been on load management in practice for 2 years now despite being in his 20’s.

His dead cap hit this year and 2024 is cost prohibitive. In 2025 it drops to $18mm, then a big drop to $8mm and $2mm in 2026 and 27.

I think the end is really near for Ramczyk and that’s a bummer. He was on a 100% hall of fame path in 2019 and now I think there’s a good possibility he’s off the team by age 31.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 1:20 pm to
Hope Underhill is wrong on this one. Ram has been a great RT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 1:24 pm to
This tracks PFF data, IIRC, which says he's already in decline. It sucks. Injuries are a bitch.

Ram having to retire quickly is one variable that scares me re: our cap shenanigans. All it takes is one of those events not in the plan and we have to blow it all up.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 1:31 pm to
His play has fallen off. Idk if PFF agrees but the eye test says he has. I got slammed for saying he shouldn’t be in the Saints long term plans but it’s alarming af when a 28 year old is on load management every week.

It does suck
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 1:33 pm to
"Taysom, you're needed in the Olineman room"
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 1:55 pm to
I agree and I listened to the pod but I'd say you have to include the context that Nick still rated him the 2nd best player on the team headed into the season. I don't think he does that if he thinks what he's heard means he won't ever be good again
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 2:05 pm to
Agreed. He’s still definitely a top tier RT for right now. But it’s something you have to consider with his dead cap hit having a pretty sharp decline in a couple years.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 2:26 pm to
I will lay money on Ram's longevity over say MT's.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 12:58 am to
This has been known for over a year now. It showed in his play last year, he definitely isn’t as quick as he used to be. It’s bad enough now that he doesn’t practice during the season anymore; he just rests during the week so he can play in the game. The Saints would like that contract they handed out back but at the time he was well worth that deal as he was the best RT in the NFL. Now we just have to hope he has a couple more solid seasons left in him before his body breaks down. I think we might end up seeing Trevor Penning be the heir apparent at RT. He will stay on the left side right now but he just looks like a RT to me. Either way I expect the Saints to draft another OT with one of their top picks in the next couple years.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 1:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:41 am to
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The Saints would like that contract they handed out back

The problem is we have to keep restructuring that contract every year.

If we didn't manage the cap the way we do, he'd likely have been cut this offseason and we wouldn't have the albatross hanging over us.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 7:42 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 11:43 am to
quote:

The problem is we have to keep restructuring that contract every year.

If we didn't manage the cap the way we do, he'd likely have been cut this offseason and we wouldn't have the albatross hanging over us.


Do you ever stop?

He definitely would not be cut this off-season. You are just making shite up in your mind.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

He’s been on load management in practice for 2 years now despite being in his 20’s.



Knee issue aside, damn near all the elite vet OTs are on load management schedules. Not a bad thing imo
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125108 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:04 pm to
You’re a broken record, man. Cap hasn’t meant shite to this team in over a decade.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:44 pm to
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albatross

How many times a day do you use this stupid fricking word
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Hope Underhill is wrong on this one. Ram has been a great RT.


Underhill is the biggest homer pumper that covers the Saints. It pains him to report that about Ram, means he’s in quick decline and probably done.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Underhill is the biggest homer pumper that covers the Saints. It pains him to report that about Ram, means he’s in quick decline and probably done.
Therefore the Saints should relocate.

Sorry, didn’t intend to make your next point for you.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57310 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:22 am to
When he's had enough he will retire and walk away
rumors were out there last year that he may walk away
Posted by eddieray
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:46 am to
Sounds similar to Jamaal Brown’s career
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
36081 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 7:29 pm to
even with him being banged up the way has been and is, He's the best we've got until proven otherwise.

Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 6:38 pm to
That's terrible news
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