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re: Fleener To Saints, 5 year deal, $36 million
Posted on 3/10/16 at 6:56 am to TG
Posted on 3/10/16 at 6:56 am to TG
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He couldn't produce with the passing game in Indy with his Stanford QB teammate? Why would he play better here?
To be fair, their Oline is one of if not the worst in the league. Not to mention they couldn't run the ball at all making their offense predictable as hell.
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:00 am to Sauce Castieaux
Are you people forgetting the Saints ol isn't exactly setting the world on fire? I like the signing but that's not an a reason to rationalize it
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:05 am to geauxtigers87
I like Fleener and think he is a pretty good TE. However, it is frustrating that we spend that much money on another toy for Payton on offense when we continue to suffer on defense.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:08 am to NOSHAU
I agree about the need on defense, but don't look at this like it's "another toy". We saw what happens to our offense with no true weapons. Granted, last year might have been an anomaly, but losing Watson hurt, and we no longer have Colston. Drew needs people to throw to.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 7:09 am
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:22 am to geauxtigers87
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Are you people forgetting the Saints ol isn't exactly setting the world on fire? I like the signing but that's not an a reason to rationalize it
Not saying our is all world but thiers is literally breaking Luck in half. They cant run the ball at all either...
Ours is not great but its improving...Thiers will get their QB killed. Big difference
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 7:23 am
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:37 am to CajunsTigersSaints
Our offense isn't what was struggling... granted Fleener is a very solid TE and a dangerous redzone threat, but we overpaid (again) for another free agent when we could've went after a true need at OL or DE. However, I'm pretty sure we're going heavy on defense in the draft again with this signing so I'm ok with that.
Just a bit of a steep price in the end.
Just a bit of a steep price in the end.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:43 am to SnoopALoop
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The tight end received an $8 million signing bonus with $18 million in total guarantees, according to a source. T
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:44 am to ea_spartan
Not too shabby
Posted on 3/10/16 at 7:46 am to CajunsTigersSaints
The Lemont, IL to Louisiana train continues
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:00 am to NOSHAU
quote:The Saints have had awful luck spending free agency dollars on defense lately. I don't blame them for holding off on big names.
it is frustrating that we spend that much money on another toy for Payton on offense when we continue to suffer on defense.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:42 am to htran90
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what concerns me is they rather keep a going to be 36 year old antonio gates @6mil a year for 2 more years than pay a very young green @4mil a year
Green wants to get out from Gates shadow
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:51 am to Lester Earl
Here are the updated numbers
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Of the $36 million total, $14.6 million is fully guaranteed. That includes the signing bonus, and the base salaries in 2016 and 2017
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:21 am to CajunsTigersSaints
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:29 am to Thurber
The 12th highest paid TE in the league will be in the top 5 in yards and receptions next year 
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:30 am to ea_spartan
Everyone is up in arms over the 36 million, we basically signed him for 3 years 15 mill, if he's not performing over those years we cut him with minimum problems. Also, our cap situation is much better next year without all our dead money from this year gone, so paying a guys 6-8 mill isn't that bad.
Fleener's strength is stretching the seem of the defense, he has rare combo of height and speed, and has been healthy most of his career. He could be a red zone monster with Drew, if we can make Ben Watson look like a top 10 TE at 35, Fleener could be going to Hawaii in the next few years.
NFL Contracts are all about the guaranteed $, 15 mill is very reasonable on a long term deal. The salary cap will continue to go up over the next few years, and if Loomis can avoid all these dead money problems we've had, we will be in good shape cap wise. We get a play maker for Drew, which he needed, at a minimal hit this season, the only season we need to be concerned about right now. Let's find a veteran guard and some D-Lineman and for fricks sake extend Drew Brees!
Fleener's strength is stretching the seem of the defense, he has rare combo of height and speed, and has been healthy most of his career. He could be a red zone monster with Drew, if we can make Ben Watson look like a top 10 TE at 35, Fleener could be going to Hawaii in the next few years.
NFL Contracts are all about the guaranteed $, 15 mill is very reasonable on a long term deal. The salary cap will continue to go up over the next few years, and if Loomis can avoid all these dead money problems we've had, we will be in good shape cap wise. We get a play maker for Drew, which he needed, at a minimal hit this season, the only season we need to be concerned about right now. Let's find a veteran guard and some D-Lineman and for fricks sake extend Drew Brees!
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:40 am to ea_spartan
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Of the $36 million total, $14.6 million is fully guaranteed.
And as usual, people overreact without all of the info. This is beyond fine.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:44 am to NOSHAU
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it is frustrating that we spend that much money on another toy for Payton on offense when we continue to suffer on defense.
honestly I'm at the point of saying frick the defense and go all in on the offense
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:44 am to Lester Earl
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If you had to pick coming into today
Fleener 5/36 or Green 4/20, which is it?
Green and it's not even close
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:44 am to Fun Bunch
Jimmy was 10 mill a year two years ago.
This averages to about 7 if he sees all of contract.
HooMan is replacing Watson, this is replacing an offensive presence that hindered us much of the year.
This averages to about 7 if he sees all of contract.
HooMan is replacing Watson, this is replacing an offensive presence that hindered us much of the year.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:44 am to Fun Bunch
His contract details are very managable. Loomis and/or Ireland did a great job structuring that thing.
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