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Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:21 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Wasn't Dalton playing for Payton?
Are you asking if Payton coached the Saints last season?
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Didn't Payton make jameis look like less of a gunslinger with a 12/3 td/int ratio.
Yes....by playing incredibly conservative and having roughly the same yards/attempt as a dead-armed Brees.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:22 pm to AFtigerFan
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Nah. Nothing wrong with what I typed. Good day, sir.
Then explain how it relates to your post. Was it included as a "cool story, bro" or did it relate to your GB point?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:17 am to pankReb
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Well with a stat like that, surely we won the division.....right
Unfortunately Carr was hurt in critical game times that we would have likely won in and had a different outcome (Packers game). You would know this if you're a Saints fan, but you're a fricking troll.
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For fun, which team is still playing.
Not because of their offense. Only 17 tonight. They should thank their defense.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:58 am to BRL79
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Unfortunately Carr was hurt in critical game times that we would have likely won in and had a different outcome (Packers game).
Ah. So you’re going with the “what-if” on one game. Ok. “What-if” he didn’t play like shite in all the other games he DID play in? Does losing the GB game because Carr went down suddenly excuse the other games where the offense played like shite?
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You would know this if you're a Saints fan, but you're a fricking troll.
And you’re crying like a bitch over people criticizing Carr’s play on a Sunday night.
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Not because of their offense. Only 17 tonight. They should thank their defense.
Ahh. So the chiefs defense deserves recognition but not a top-5 Ravens defense.
You sure did put a lot of mental effort and zero emotion into your post, champ.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:34 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Easiest schedule in the league effect
Yeah all them easy teams we lost to were in the playoffs. Maybe it wasn’t so easy
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 3:35 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 6:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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I don't use dinosaur stats like "Scoring offense". Why I had to ask.
this freekin guy…
Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:42 am to redneck
Glad to see the likes on the OP.
Maybe this entire board is not completely slow after all. Except for the post happy mouth breathers on here with the shitty takes etc.
Maybe this entire board is not completely slow after all. Except for the post happy mouth breathers on here with the shitty takes etc.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:43 am to Dissident Aggressor
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quote: I don't use dinosaur stats like "Scoring offense". Why I had to ask. this freekin guy…
Right. Clown show man.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:48 am to BRL79
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Saints: 41 total offensive tds Bucs: 36 total offensive tds Falcons: 31 total offensive tds Panthers: 20 total offensive tds For fun, Chiefs: 37 total offensive tds
This is too much reason for these idiots.
Defense is the one that regressed. The offense improved with Carr.
Now lets get an OCordinator that can scheme the run game and get some lineman (draft or otherwise).
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:14 am to BRL79
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That means the rest of the NFC South had roughly the same schedule. What were their offensive rankings?
ETA:
Saints: 41 total offensive tds
Bucs: 36 total offensive tds
Falcons: 31 total offensive tds
Panthers: 20 total offensive tds
For fun,
Chiefs: 37 total offensive tds
Carr’s annual average salary is $37.5 mil a year. The rest of the division’s QBs salary combined was $14 mil. Ridder and Bryce Young had 4 combined NFL starts coming into this season
60% of the Saints TDs came in the second half
(Since you brought up the Chiefs — by comparison 32%)
44% of Carr’s TD passes were when the saints won or loss by 15+ points
(Mahomes 11%)
It’s like y’all didn’t even watch the games. More empty statistics. Again, How were we 9-8 if yall think these numbers are impressive?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:30 am to redneck
The Saints offense played its best football of the season in the 2nd half against Minnesota with Jameis
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:31 am to redneck
Quarterbacks get too much blame and too much credit. Couple that with the fact that every opinion has to be extreme and threads like this get out of control.
This is Carr’s first season with this team. The offensive line absolutely sucked the first few games, but improved to below average by the end of the season. The offensive schemes and playcalling were pretty bad all year long. Dennis Allen isn’t a leader of men. Hell, he couldn’t lead a pack of school children across a street.
Carr is an average QB. He’s not elite like Mahomes or Burrow. He doesn’t suck like Desmond Ridder or Nathan Peterman. He’s on par with guys like Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, or Geno Smith. He needs a good team and good game plan to be really good. At best he’s the 9th or 10th best QB in the NFL. At worst he’s the 20th or 21st best QB in the NFL.
Carr is far from being our biggest problem on the team.
This is Carr’s first season with this team. The offensive line absolutely sucked the first few games, but improved to below average by the end of the season. The offensive schemes and playcalling were pretty bad all year long. Dennis Allen isn’t a leader of men. Hell, he couldn’t lead a pack of school children across a street.
Carr is an average QB. He’s not elite like Mahomes or Burrow. He doesn’t suck like Desmond Ridder or Nathan Peterman. He’s on par with guys like Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, or Geno Smith. He needs a good team and good game plan to be really good. At best he’s the 9th or 10th best QB in the NFL. At worst he’s the 20th or 21st best QB in the NFL.
Carr is far from being our biggest problem on the team.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:54 am to redneck
The Carr hate doesn't fully stem from his abilities on the field. A large swath of people dislike Carr because he came into town acting holier than thou and then proceeded to act the arse and yell at teammates and coaches on live television. It became evident quickly that a lot of the team didn't like him or his coach for that matter.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:06 am to Suntiger
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Carr is an average QB. He’s not elite like Mahomes or Burrow. He doesn’t suck like Desmond Ridder or Nathan Peterman. He’s on par with guys like Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, or Geno Smith. He needs a good team and good game plan to be really good. At best he’s the 9th or 10th best QB in the NFL. At worst he’s the 20th or 21st best QB in the NFL.
Carr is far from being our biggest problem on the team.
I think this is what is so hard for the Carr haters to understand. None of the "Carr fan boys" expected him to be a top 5 QB. He's going to be as good or as bad as the game plan and the talent you put around him. I think most logical fans knew that we had trouble ahead once Drew retired. Very few teams outside of Green Bay hit on QBs that often. Look at Miami post Marino, Denver post Elway, Pitt post Big Ben, Pats post Brady, etc.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:14 am to 3deadtrolls
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he came into town acting holier than thou
Oh frick off. He never said anything remotely close to that—you don’t like him because he’s religious.
He yelled at Olave because he’s a bitch that was quitting on his routes, he deserved it
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:09 pm to pankReb
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Does losing the GB game because Carr went down suddenly excuse the other games where the offense played like shite?
His stats on par with Mahomes
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And you’re crying like a bitch over people criticizing Carr’s play on a Sunday night.
Complaining about Carr when the season is over = real crying like a bitch.
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Ahh. So the chiefs defense deserves recognition but not a top-5 Ravens defense.
Mahomes stats are no better than Carr's this year. Did I miss that they played Baltimore every week, or did Mahomes have shitty games against lesser defenses this year?
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You sure did put a lot of mental effort and zero emotion into your post, champ
I guess you're all emotion and no mental effort. Hey, stay in school pal, you'll get smarter.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:17 pm to GynoSandberg
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Carr’s annual average salary is $37.5 mil a year. The rest of the division’s QBs salary combined was $14 mil. Ridder and Bryce Young had 4 combined NFL starts coming into this season
Kansas City scored less than us, what's Mahomes salary?
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60% of the Saints TDs came in the second half
(Since you brought up the Chiefs — by comparison 32%)
So we got better and better as the season progressed and they got worse. Is that your real argument?
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44% of Carr’s TD passes were when the saints won or loss by 15+ points
(Mahomes 11%)
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More empty statistics
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:47 pm to The_Duke
Yes a lot of his yards came when the game was out of hand Lol
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:00 pm to redneck
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None of the "Carr fan boys" expected him to be a top 5 QB. He's going to be as good or as bad as the game plan and the talent you put around him.
So what's the point of him, especially at his salary and ESPECIALLY given our cap situation?
Why are we paying him such a huge salary when mediocre is our ceiling? We could cycle the 1 year options (dalton, baker, soon to be tennehill, etc.) for much cheaper for those results.
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