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re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/18/24 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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2024 cap hit is clearly $29 million, $47million in dead money if cut, and cap savings of $17million. 2025 is clearly also a $29 million cap hit, with 17million in dead if cut, and a savings of 12 million.
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Completely wrong
Playing pretend in lala land still I see. Youre a fricking clown.
Whether theyre in a neg or positive those are the numbers idiot. The cap savings stays the same either way.
And like I said they will not cut Kupp and get a 47$million dead cap hit. Post June cut in 2024 is still $29million in deadcap.
2025 is their year to move on.
Similar to the Saints getting stuck with MT 13.
Now tell me how is the cap savings a different number on the yet to be determined 2024 cap no? Whether a postive or negative? You cant. Its the same number either way.
And Rams are saddled with that bad contract until 2025.
They literally have no reason to take on $47million in dead cap by cutting Kupp in 2024 to save 17$million in cap space that they dont need right now. (Theyre saving $17million if cut whether in pos/neg pussy)
Thus, 2025, etc.
Annddd the 2024 offseason hasnt even started yet and 2024 cap hasnt been set.
Now shut the frick up pussy Karen!!
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re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/18/24 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
Changing your tune now arent? Clearly youve been correctted and are now backtracking.
Your exact words:
Now your trying to backtrack and say the opposite:
LOL wow. Buddy is confused and still trying to fake it.
Incorrect. This is some of the trashest posting Ive seen from you.
2024 cap hit is clearly $29 million, $47million in dead money if cut, and cap savings of $17million.
2025 is clearly also a $29 million cap hit, with 17million in dead if cut, and a savings of 12 million.
So Kupp could be cut no earlier than 2025. Obviously.
See the image moron?
Very clearly its you who doesnt get how this works.
Now shut the frick up pussy Karen!
Your exact words:
Now your trying to backtrack and say the opposite:
LOL wow. Buddy is confused and still trying to fake it.
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No it's the net impact. Being in parentheses indicates that it would add that number. See how in 2025 it's not in parentheses? That means if they cut him, the net impact saves them $12.5M on their 2025 cap.
Incorrect. This is some of the trashest posting Ive seen from you.
2024 cap hit is clearly $29 million, $47million in dead money if cut, and cap savings of $17million.
2025 is clearly also a $29 million cap hit, with 17million in dead if cut, and a savings of 12 million.
So Kupp could be cut no earlier than 2025. Obviously.
See the image moron?
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Yup. You have no idea how this works.
Very clearly its you who doesnt get how this works.
Now shut the frick up pussy Karen!
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/18/24 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because they were still in cap hell in 2023.
Correct. Meaning they HAD to restructure Kupp’s bad contract. To create space, etc. the SAME thing the Saints do. Literally.
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In 2024 they're under the cap. We are $80M+ over the cap.
2024 offseason HAS NOT even started yet moron.
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They would take a $17.2M hit on their cap
Wrong. They would take a 47$million dead cap hit if they cut Kupp in 2024. It would save them 17million in cap space, but theyre not likely to accrues $47million in dead cap to get $17million in cap space.
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I thought we were discussing if he was cut?
No you didnt pussy, youre just wrong and embarrassed.
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You are actually confusing the 2
Says the idiot who said cutting Kupp would cause a “$17.2M hit on their cap”
You literally said the Rams could cut Kupp in 2024 and take a “17.2 million cap hit.” LOL.
No moron, they could cut Kupp and SAVE $17.2 million. Then they would rack up $47 million in dead cap. And then there wouldnt be a cap hit at all. But they would be stuck with enormous dead cap.
They’re stuck with Kupp dumbfrick.
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No. It would create $17M in additional hits to their cap (in 2024), due to the large dead money remaining. That's what the red number in parentheses means.
Wrong. The red number in parentheses is the cap savings if he was cut. What the frick mother fricker you are completely retarded.
Now shut the frick up pussy Karen!
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/18/24 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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So if were applying that impact to 2024, they'd end up around $36-37M in cap room because waiting until 2025 would lessen the blow significantly. Which is what they will do since they are already under the cap and there is no reason to kick that can and lock themselves into an aging Kupp (which is exactly what the Saints do, like with Mathieu, Maye, Cam, etc. last offseason).
You fricking moron they restructured him in 2023. Literally they just restructured Kupp and did the Saints strategy in June of 2023. Kupp had a subpar season in 2022, and the restructured him in 2023, and they will be paying the price or making another move eventually.
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Yes. The net impact would be a $17.26M hit on their cap.
Wrong you fricking idiot. It would save them $17 million in cap space - can you read??? The cap hit is $29million.
Hey buddy cap savings is not the same as your cap hit.
Your cap no is your cap hit. Unreal.
Let me help you clown.
See how what this means now? Or still confused?
Bro thinks your cap hit is the same as your cap savings.
Cap hit numbers circled for you simpleton.
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I don't think you understand any of these numbers.
I dont think you understand any of these numbers.
Very obvious you DON’T. I’ll have to bust out some crayons soon to help you understand I guess.
Youre clueless. LOL.
They’re not going to cut Kupp in 2024 - thats $47 million in dead cap on the books. Are you blind?
Here you go making shite up again. His cap hit is $29million i.e. amount of cap he’s taking, and dead cap if cut is $47million in 2024.
IF they cut him in 2024 it would create $17million in CAP SPACE, but would cause a $47million dead cap number.
They are not going to cut him you dumb frick.
And they already restructured him post injury and after bad prooduction in 2023.
Bro is clueless, and either dumb or just a flat out liar.
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There is about a $110M in cap difference in the 2 in 2024 Which team's situation would you rather: Team A: $33.7M under the cap after making the playoffs with a clean cap situation moving forward Team B: $87.7M over the cap after missing the playoffs, with an even worse cap situation in future years
NO THERE isnt you pussy, the fricking 2024 offseason HAS NOT even started yet and the 2024 cap no HAS NOT been set yet.
We will see where these teams end up, but citing pre offseason/free agency number is POINTLESS.
Go ahead keep exposing yourself.
And shut the frick up pussy!
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 11:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Considering we didn't make the playoffs in 2021, 2022, or 2023, while digging a bigger cap hole? Clearly.
Our deadcap was 24 million in 2023, after being after being 43 million in 2022, and 49 million in 2021.
Now how exactly were we digging a bigger cap hole during this time? You fricking tool.
PS at no point has our dead cap been as bad as the Bucs/Rams i.e. not 70 plus million.
Offseason numbers are meaningless.
We signed Carr, now we need to restrcuture etc, par for the course, Rams signed Kupp, had to restructure his monster contract. Restructuring large contracts is par for the course in the NFL.
And Bucs are about to drop a bad on Mayfield, high mid tier qb money. And they’ll restructure him and avoid high cap hits on him in the future also.
Now shut the frick up pussy arse Karen!
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They would take a $17.2M hit on their cap The Rams are about $24M under the cap
Wrong again. Man who cant read? Is this real life.
Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone. His cap hit of $29 million would be MORE than their current cap space, which is actually irrelevant since the 2024 offseason hasnt even started yet you twit.
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They would take a $17.2M hit on their cap
In 2025 you fricking retard.
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The Rams are about $24M under the cap Cutting Cut would leave them with about $7M in cap room.
Completely wrong.
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You are displaying an inability to read and do Kindergarten-level math
Says the fricktard trying to lie.
The pictures above show that youre a fricking idiot. Sad that I have to post it just because youre playing pretend you pussy.
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That puts them over $90M in cap advantage over the Saints
2024 cap hasnt even beed set yet and you dont know shite. You dont even understand Kupp’s monster contract.
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Again, you either can't, or won't, answer simple questions.
Again your lying and full of shite. You just continue to ignore the facts and make shite up. The current sate of teams cap is irrelevant, the 2024 cap is being set, and how our offseason plays out will be a huge factor. As it is for ANY team.
And I dont beleive youre dumb enough to not understand how the 9-8 Saints and 9-8 Bucs are not vastly different from one another. You just keep saying the same bullshite over and over for like 10 years now.
Now shut the frick up pussy Karen!
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not even that critical for 2021. We tried, it was clear our window was over, and we should have started the rebuild. Instead we doubled down for 2022 and then tripled down for 2023
Right, because after going 5-2 with Jameis a rebuild was the move???
Get the frick dumbass.
Ps we lost 5 straight games with Simeon as starter after Jameis got hurt.
But you dont actually watch games you just watch dead cap and piss and moan fricking pussy arse Karen.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 9:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Turning salary or roster bonuses into signing bonuses leads to the results we are discussing, pushing the liabilities down the road
Common practice, Rams did it with Kupp in 2023.
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Yes and we can project, within a reasonable MOE, the expected increases. NFL revenue doesn't change that much without a pandemic.
Wrong again moron. Cap history is sporadic and could be over 20million increase or regress back to 10million or less.
No one know what the 2024 cap will be. Especially not you so shut the frick up.
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2023: $224,800,000 ($16,600,000 increase)
2022: $208,2000,000 ($25,700,000 increase)
2021: $182,500,000 ($15,700,000 decrease)
2020: $198,200,000 ($10,000,000 increase)
2019: $188,200,000 ($11,000,000 increase)
2018: $177,200,000 ($10,200,000 increase)
2017: $167,000,000 ($11,730,000 increase)
2016: $155,270,000 ($11,990,000 increase)
2015: $143,280,000 ($10,280,000 increase)
2014: $133,000,000 ($9,400,000 increase)
2013: $123,600,000 ($3,000,000 increase)
2012: $120,600,000 ($225,000 increase)
2011: $120,375,000
2010: Uncapped 2009: $123,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2008: $116,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2007: $109,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2006: $102,000,000 ($16,500,000 increase)
2005: $85,500,000 ($4,918,000 increase)
2004: $80,582,000 ($5,575,000 increase)
2003: $75,007,000 ($3,906,000 increase)
2002: $71,101,000 ($3,696,000 increase)
2001: $67,405,000 ($5,233,000 increase)
2000: $62,172,000 ($4,884,000 increase)
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They could cut him, pre-June 1, and eat his entire cap hit and still have cap room without touching another contract. That isn't an "albatross"
Wrong again moron.
Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone.
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POTENTIAL OUT: 2025, $17,260,000 DEAD CAP 2025
They can get out if his contract in 2025, but it would still be a $17million dollar dead cap hit.
Link attached click it pussy. These are actual facts. Not youre made up bullshite.
LINK
Keep making shite up pussy.
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They both have cap room in 2024. How is that comparable to our cap situation? How are either in the "same BOAT", as you put it?
They literally had the same amount of dead cap this year 2023, as Saints did in 2022. Their bad contracts ARE/WILL coming to fruition now. Kupp’s contract, and Bucs seemingly will sign Baker to a mid tier QB deal like Carr (30 plus million) and it will cycle back around.
This is how the salary cap works numbnuts.
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You still haven't answered how being over $100M apart in cap space is the same, or how playoff appearances are the same as not making the playoffs.
Actually I have repeatedly.
(1) your clueless and clearly what the salary cap for teams will END UP being is going to be far different from the numbers we see right now. The fricking salary cap hasnt been set yet for 2024 and the offseason has not started. Youre literally just making shite up. You have NO clue where teams will end up or what signings etc could occur.
(2) the saints, bucs and rams all had similar records. The bucs got spanked by the saints and the saints were the better team at the end of the year. There is luck involved and the Bucs were lucky to have the tie breaker for the playoffs. The rams were lucky Carr got injured in the GBay game.
Saints and Bucs went 9-8 and Bucs luckily got a tiebreaker. Time to give up - might as well not even play in 2024 right pussy?
Now shut the frick up pussy! Go root for the Bucs/rams - you already have their nuts in your mouth.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 6:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1 + 1 = 2 If we have these liabilities and push them off, then other years absorb them. It's basic addition and subtraction.
Incorrect, you have no clue what can/will happen.
And theres already an article showing how easily the Saints will be cap compliant. Like I said already Carr, and some decisions on a few vets. The rest are obvious resigns.
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Do you think that somehow magically it won't have similar appreciation from 2022 to 2023 than what we expect?
Magically? Do you know that the salary cap for the 2023 season i.e. last year the cap was set at $224.8 million, representing a near-$20 million increase over 2022.
What you expect is and has been wrong for quite some time now.
Similar to you thinking the Saints had a poor deadcap in 2023 and you were clueless what the actual numbers are.
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Because they rebuilt for 1 year
Stafford was HURT. They didnt rebuild you fricking moron. They had a shitty season because their QB went down. They didnt purposely rebuild. They tried to win games and signed Mayfield even. Man playing pretend some more huh?
They did no different then the Saints playing Jamies then Simeon, or Jameis then Dalton.
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and are already back in the playoffs with a good cap situation (with mega QB, WR, and DI contracts on the books)
Stafford is an aging QB, he is no Brees. He is NOT a mega QB. He is a Carr (mid tier qb) that got gifted a Super Bowl by the NFL.
Kupp’s contract is the definition of an albatross. Youre wayy off on this one - he is their MT13. He was restructured last year in 2023. Why pussy? So the rams could get UNDER the cap. Wrong again.
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The Rams have freed up some more cap space for the coming season.
Field Yates of ESPN reports that the team restructured wide receiver Cooper Kupp’s contract. They converted $13.92 million of Kupp’s $15 million base salary into a signing bonus.
The move creates $10.44 million in cap space for the team. Kupp has another base salary of $15 million for the 2024 season and salaries of $12.5 million and $14.85 million for the 2025 and 2026 campaigns.
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The Rams were tight against the salary cap before the move and have not re-signed all of their draft picks yet. This maneuver will allow them to wrap that up and should leave some money for other moves that the team may opt to make later in the year.
Article attached.
LINK
This is MAJOR can kicking.
The Rams barely made the playoffs and the Saints were neck and neck with the Rams/Bucs/Packers for the playoffs. There is not much difference in the group. Saints pounded the Bucs to end the year.
Basically you have no argument. Your just a pussy arse Karen. Youre the emotional “fan” and you obviously played zero meaningful sports. Complete lack of understanding.
At this point please dont pretend your a fan. Im convinced your a Bucs fan trolling Saints talk.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 4:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Explain to me how over $100M in cap room differences are the "same BOAT", please.
Because you cant predict the future you fricking idiot. Where we are at after we restructure our contracts is what matters right now, and we will see where we end up. Which Ive said repeatedly, you cant predict the future pussy. You are referencing a temporary no.
Carr’s restructure is a big start, a few other decisions, and actually a bunch of obvious resigns on several players.
The fricking salary cap no for 2024 hasnt even been set yet. Do you know anything or are you just a wind bag.
I swear for a wanna couch GM youre unbeleivably slow.
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The salary cap for the 2024 season is yet to be set, but last year the cap was set at $224.8 million, representing a near-$20 million increase over 2022.
Here is how all 32 NFL teams currently stand, keeping in mind that cap space is a constantly changing number as teams maneuver throughout the offseason. Salary sap data comes courtesy of our friends at OverTheCap.
Quite above from this article.
LINK
Let the fricking offseason play out before you piss and moan perhaps?Teams have to get get under the cap all the time, this is nothing new.
fricking please try to keep up.
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OH, and how making the playoffs v. not making the playoffs is the "same BOAT".
You dumbfrick, you must be a Bucs fan. Saints and Bucs both went 9-8. Saints beat the Bucs arse before the playoffs. Luck is a factor in the nfl.
The Bucs were not better than the Saints last year even though they got the tiebreaker and made the playoffs over the Saints. Rams have their own problems starting with Kupps bad contract and aging QB. They had very similar seasons at 9-8/9-8/10-7. Saints had shitty luck and easily could won a tie breaker or beat the Packers game and been 10-7.
Wins are the metric of success in the nfl. Give yourself a chance in the playoffs. (Eli 2x SBowl winner with 9-7 teams)
And if you get lucky, or have Pat Mahomes or a transcendant QB, you could win a Super Bowl or multiple Super Bowls. Once your in the playoffs you never know. Arizona almost stole one with Kurt Warner, Flacco won one, etc.
Mid tier QB’s have done it.
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What success have they had in 2021, 2022, or 2023?
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We're talking 2021-2023
And since you want it, and think you have a point (you dont) please see as follows for last 3 years each teams amount of WINS:
Bucs 30 (Tom Brady/Mayfield)
Rams 27 (Stafford)
Saints 25(JW/AD/Simien/Taysom/Carr)
Worlds apart eh????? NO. And in the same timeframe that the Rams only have two more wins than us they also have a SBowl win.
Now shut the frick up you pussy!
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Reading posts can be tricky, but you certainly come across as crying incessantly
Correct. Guy is a walking vagina.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Explain to me how over $100M in cap room differences are the "same BOAT", please. OH, and how making the playoffs v. not making the playoffs is the "same BOAT".
Well numbnuts, both teams had 70plus million in dead cap last year.
Next year for all 3 teams - no one know yet.
And if you cant see that the 9-8 saints beat the shite of out the 9-8 Bucs and the Bucs are not in a league ahead of the Saints you cant be helped.
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No we're talking 2021 onward.
This above discussion is from 2021 onward. All had similar records last year and all three are teams that have held high dead cap over the years.
Rams/Bucs are not on some upward trajectory compared to the Saints.
Bucs got to pay Mayfield top dollar now. Stafford old and getting paid.
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The Rams won a title, in the past. We did not win a title during this can-kicking era.
Your a fricking idiot. Nfl screwing the Saints means the Saints front office messed up. Sureee.
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Why? They have like $25M in cap room.
Are you dense? Rams are desperate to fix Kupps contract situation. He’s owed a shite ton for spotty production.
LINK
Read it moron.
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Bargain basement QB shopping while in cap hell.
How much do you think Baker gets next year moron???? And where would that leave the Bucs? In the same boat as the Saints with a mid tier qb getting paid upper mid tier money.
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Panthers, Cardinals, and Titans are not well-run franchises. If you want to be like them, then you're no fan.
Yet you think the Saints are like these teams.
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The Saints have been doing that well for a LONGTIME now.
Except the past 3 years, which is the window everyone is discussing.
First of all we had a similar three year stretch of going 7-9 before 2018.
Second, the past history is relevant especially 2018/2020etc. the same timeframe where the Rams/Bucs were right and the Saints wrong because they won a championship. While pretending like the Saints didnt get screwed, and/or wouldnt have a second SB win if we didnt get screwed. I bet you wear Rams/Bucs clothes now, since the Saints couldbt overcome the refs and win the SuperBowl for you.
Ignore the Saints’ success all you want pussy. Figures you would crybaby. I’ll call be here to call you a pussy for it. I dont mind calling a spade a spade.
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For real. He seems to live a sad life. If a sports team made me this miserable, I'd find another one or quit keeping up with it
Right.
I have enjoyed watching to Saints go from shitty/worst team in the NFL to top ten/five arguably.
Been quite a ride. fricking shame the NFL rigged us or we would have 2 Super Bowls not 1.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 2:43 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Don’t be intentionally retarded.
Beyond intentional. Its pussy fandom at its finest, and I dont mind calling a spade a spade.
Saint have the 7th most wins since 2000, and Super Bowl and a lot of success to look back on.
6th most since 2010, the beginning of his alleged can kicking theories.
He’s too dumb to realize that the only material change was that Drew Brees’ cheap arse original contract lasted from 2006-2011 and the bargain rate we had him at was over at that point.
The came the Brees restructures etc.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And then they won the South and made the playoffs in 2021. We did neither. And then they won the South and made the playoffs in 2022. We did neither.
They had Tom Brady you dumbfrick.
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They won a title, in the past. We did not win a title during this can-kicking era.
No we didnt, we got fricking robbed pussy, what about that dont you get?
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In order to win a title. They did. Now they're rebuilding. We failed to win a title and refuse to rebuild, while missing the playoffs.
They “can kicked” and won a title. And we were doing the same thing and got fricking robbed out of our title chances. Again, what about that do you not get? fricking idiot. The Saints are wrong tho. Not the Rams. Rigghht.
Saints were in great position. And we got screwed. Your title or bust mentality is the retarded expectation.
Which is why folks understand that you have to give yourself a chance and anything can happen (ex Eli manning and his 9-7 teams that win SuperBowls).
And the rams are NOT “rebuilding” they are executing the same strategy as the Saints and often have a high dead cap. Kupp is a great example. He will likely be restructured. Just like Saints did with MT until they can get rid of him. Dumbfrick.
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Tampa ate shite for a year to fix their cap, and still made the playoffs while we kept can kicking.
No they didnt. They had Tom Brady and replaced him with Baker. And went 9-8 just like the Saints and we beat the dogshit out of them before the plaoffs.
Now bucs have to pay Baker or move on. They are going to pay him. Placing the Bucs in the EXACT same boat as the Saints. Banking on a mid tier QB and defense.
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Why are you bringing up moves made so far in the past that aren't relevant? Everyone was fine with can kicking while we had a window. Same as LAR and TB. The difference is they realized when the window was closed and we have just made everything worse (while still being so mediocre we can't even make the playoffs).
See above, again the Rams/Bucs are in the same position as the Saints and are usual suspects having high arse deadcap. You say that they made the playoffs and we didnt over and over pussy, stfu already.
Bucs went 9-8 and we beat their asses to cap the year. Rams went 10-7. These teams are in the same BOAT as the Saints.
Stafford is older and def a mid tier QB and the Rams have bad contracts overcome.
If Donald retires, he’s their RRamcyzk.
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Now your spin is that a team with a high deadcap is better than the Saints high deadcap because (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.
This is your spin. Its trash.
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You also just have shitty teams and GMS.
Which you beleive is the Saints, despite years of success, 7th best record since 2020, a SuperBowl, and a bunch of other seasons where we were close. And got ROBBED.
Bucs/Rams are in the same boat as the saints. Currently. Youre just a fricking pussy fan who wants to bitch like the Karen you are. Shitty fan. And a pussy.
Which brings me back to my original point. The salary cap is ongoing and ever changing, as are contract values etc. As posted above the top 4 teams with the highest deadcaps were in the playoffs in 2023, the Bucs, Rams, Packers, and Eagles. All in the playoffs and all with a SIMILAR record as the Saints. 9-8/10-7, and Philly went 11-6 but in a bad way. Saints finished strong.
The Bucs and Packers (and Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings) in particular were not selling out for a championship. And theyre not necessarily rebuilding either.
There are several factors that play into the salary cap and why teams will/wont have a high dead cap, retiring players, etc. Teams manage it year to year and try to field the best team they can while winning games. The Saints have been doing that well for a LONGTIME now.
The metric for NFL success is not watching deadcap you fricking pussy. Which is why the following was posted:
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SFP makes a post about NFL power rankings. It only addresses teams’ salary cap. Seems on par.
Par for the course. Shut the frick up pussy. Youre a fricking clown.
By the way metric for success is winning. Saints have 7th most since 2000 pussy and a Super Bowl.
Sorry that you just a pussy Karen and that bothers you.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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No, like Maye, Cam, and Mathieu
Kupp has a monster contract and isnt productive - his contract is worse than the guys listed above clown.
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I said "they're out of", i.e., today. They're smack dab in the middle of the NFL this offseason in terms of cap space (with no dead cap looming while retaining their expensive QB, WR, and DT).
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The can stopped being kicked last year. We are still kicking can. They can make the playoffs while in a difficult division and rebuilding. We failed to make the playoffs while in an incredibly easy division and pushing rebuilding off.
Their original can kicking also led to a title and another SB appearance. Our can kicking led to neither (and today we are so strapped we can't even make the playoffs).
Rams cap management is in par with the Saints. They have been one of the top 5 teams in dead cap for years.
They have a SuperBowl appearance robbed from the Saints, and won in in a high dead cap year 2021.
They have been in the same boat as the Saints with better luck/cheating refs.
And, like I said already, how deadcap a team has is NOT a defining factor in whether they are or arent a good team.
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quote: By the way were the Bucs selling out for a Super Bowl in 2023? No they were rebuilding after selling out for their Super Bowl (which they got). Where is our similar Super Bowl in this can-kicking era?
So you forgot that the Saints were rolling and lost to Tom Brady/Bucs that year? The Saints were in the mix fighting for the SB that year and beat the Bucs twice in the regular season.
Funny how you dont mention how we were 13-3 that season.
Also the Bucs last year managed a high dead cap and had success but only marginally better than the Saints who were also 9-8 and whupped their asses before the playoffs started. Saints clearly could have made noise in the playoffs.
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No they were rebuilding after selling out for their Super Bowl (which they got). Where is our similar Super Bowl in this can-kicking era?
And what about these teams nut bag?
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $75.32MM Los Angeles Rams: $74.23MM
Green Bay Packers: $57.14MM Philadelphia Eagles: $54.73MM Carolina Panthers: $51.54MM
Arizona Cardinals: $36.96MM Tennessee Titans: $36.56MM Minnesota Vikings: $35.54MM Houston Texans: $31.72MM
The Bucs, Packers, Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings were not “selling out” for a championship in 2023 were they. No.
They just had a high dead cap year.
You think the reasons a team has a high dead cap are (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.
Alittle more to it than that pussy.
PS every fricking team is “selling out” to win a ship in whatever way they can. Even in a rebuild year there is a plan.
Which brings me back to my original point.
The salary cap is ongoing and ever changing, as are contract values etc. As posted above the top 4 teams with the highest deadcaps were in the playoffs in 2023, the Bucs, Rams, Packers, and Eagles.
The Bucs and Packers (and Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings) in particular were not selling out for a championship. And theyre not necessarily rebuilding either.
Again, you are clueless. (1) you beleive that a large dead cap is meaningful - as a definition of whether a team will or wont be a good team. Its not. (2) Now your spin is that a team with a high deadcap is better than the Saints high deadcap because (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.
There are several factors that play into it. The metric for NFL success is not watching deadcap you fricking pussy. Which is why the following was posted:
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SFP makes a post about NFL power rankings. It only addresses teams’ salary cap. Seems on par.
Par for the course. Shut the frick up pussy. Youre fricking clown.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/17/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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The full clause: "We are limited in creating roster spots because we have so much dead money hanging over guys who should be cut, "
Like Kupp? Literally got paid a shite ton for MT13 like production for two straight years - missed games etc.
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They're out of cap hell
Wrong in 2023 rams were in the MIDDLE of cap hell - or your own deluded version of “cap hell.”
And yes they were fine. Which is why I keep calling you a pussy and telling you to shut the frick up. Dead cap year by year is not the defining factor re the best teams/playoff teams etc.
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They were, and then they took their medicine in ONE year. Now they're a playoff team with a stacked young roster.
So THEIR can kicking was ultra effective because they went 10-7, but the Saints at 9-8 had inneffective can kicking? Sure pussy try again.
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What you fail to understand is that if we did have a monster draft, we don't have the roster spots for 6+ young players.
You think we dont have space to sign 6 picks, third round or fewer?
How do you think the rams signed their 14 picks with 74 million in dead cap you fricking moron? You are dumb as frick bruh, and you think you know shite but you dont.
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Their palate is largely cleansed, due to taking their medicine after realizing their title window was closed.
Dude, Rams have had a shitty dead cap for years now, their strategy is SIMILAR to the saints with their cap. They literally had 49 million in dead cap in 2021. The year they won the SB.
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How are they looking in 2024 and 2025?
Remains to be seen what their cap will be in the future pussy just like the Saints. Depends on what they do with several contracts like Cooper Kupp so we will see what their dead cap hit will be. You cant predict the future can you pussy?
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They're out of cap hell AND made the playoffs (in a tough division). We're in cap hell and failed to make the playoffs (in the easiest division).
What you fail to realize is that you have this idea that you understand thr NFL cap and what it means. You particularly beleive that a large dead cap is meaningful - as a definition of whether a team will or wont be a good team.
What you dont get is that the salary cap is ongoing and ever changing, as are contract values etc. As posted above the top 4 teams with the highest deadcaps were in the playoffs in 2023, the Bucs, Rams, Packers, and Eagles.
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(1) Saints deadcap was decent in 2023.
(2) how much deadcap you have does not necessarily mean your team sucks.
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $75.32MM Los Angeles Rams: $74.23MM
Green Bay Packers: $57.14MM Philadelphia Eagles: $54.73MM Carolina Panthers: $51.54MM Arizona Cardinals: $36.96MM Tennessee Titans: $36.56MM Minnesota Vikings: $35.54MM Houston Texans: $31.72MM Las Vegas Raiders: $29.95MM Indianapolis Colts: $24.89MM New Orleans Saints: $24.58MM Chicago Bears: $23.52MM Washington Commanders: $23.01MM New York Giants: $22.74MM New England Patriots: $21.82MM Atlanta Falcons: $18.78MM Detroit Lions: $18.69MM Seattle Seahawks: $17.91MM San Francisco 49ers: $17.16MM Cleveland Browns: $16MM Dallas Cowboys: $14.64MM Pittsburgh Steelers: $13.26MM Baltimore Ravens: $10.78MM Denver Broncos: $9.72MM Miami Dolphins: $8.43MM New York Jets: $7.95MM Kansas City Chiefs: $7.65MM Buffalo Bills: $5.23MM Jacksonville Jaguars: $4.7MM Los Angeles Chargers: $2.19MM Cincinnati Bengals: $593K
You literally prove my point while not even knowing what the point is. Classic.
By the way were the Bucs selling out for a Super Bowl in 2023? The packers? NO - they just had a bad cap year and theyre going to try to work it down.
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SFP makes a post about NFL power rankings. It only addresses teams’ salary cap. Seems on par.
Par for the course. Shut the frick up pussy. Youre fricking clown.
re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/16/24 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is actually a really big under the radar issue with our cap/roster building strategy.
We can't do what the Rams did the past couple years and rebuilding by drafting in volume, because we don't have the roster spots.
We are limited in creating roster spots because we have so much dead money hanging over guys who should be cut, that we sacrifice the very young/cheap talent we need to offset the cap strategy. The Rams basically blew it up and made the playoffs in 1 year (while keeping 3/4 of their most important and expensive players). This rebuild was done without the #6 pick in the 2023 draft, as well
The same Rams who had $74million in deadcap money in 2023, second highest in the NFL?
But theyre not can kicking, just the Saints to you right?
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $75.32MM
Los Angeles Rams: $74.23MM
Green Bay Packers: $57.14MM
Philadelphia Eagles: $54.73MM
Carolina Panthers: $51.54MM
Arizona Cardinals: $36.96MM
Tennessee Titans: $36.56MM
Minnesota Vikings: $35.54MM
Houston Texans: $31.72MM
Las Vegas Raiders: $29.95MM
Indianapolis Colts: $24.89MM
New Orleans Saints: $24.58MM
Chicago Bears: $23.52MM
Washington Commanders: $23.01MM
New York Giants: $22.74MM
New England Patriots: $21.82MM
Atlanta Falcons: $18.78MM
Detroit Lions: $18.69MM
Seattle Seahawks: $17.91MM
San Francisco 49ers: $17.16MM
Cleveland Browns: $16MM
Dallas Cowboys: $14.64MM
Pittsburgh Steelers: $13.26MM
Baltimore Ravens: $10.78MM
Denver Broncos: $9.72MM
Miami Dolphins: $8.43MM
New York Jets: $7.95MM
Kansas City Chiefs: $7.65MM
Buffalo Bills: $5.23MM
Jacksonville Jaguars: $4.7MM
Los Angeles Chargers: $2.19MM
Cincinnati Bengals: $593K
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Youre a fraud and completely clueless. Shut the frick up pussy. Wow. Rams had $74million in deadcap for 2023 compared to Saints at $24million, but you think they got the financial freedom and a well played cap.
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Saints have 5 picks and will receive 3 compensatory picks.
8 total. 6 cheap and third round or lower. We will absolutely be looking for cheap help through the draft.
PS saying NFL teams “need” to hit on the draft is the dumbest shite ever. OF COURSE NFL teams want to hit in the draft. Every team is trying to cash in on cheap talent from the draft and ride them.
re: Could Taysom Hill play RB?
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/16/24 at 6:59 pm to Chad504boy
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More athletic Kyle Juszczyk
Yuppp.
We have Olave for Aiuyuk type production, and Shahid is going to fill the Debo role with the reverses etc.
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Something is odd that Willie doesn’t try to give Hawk at least 10 minutes a game with Dyson out.
Not really. We won both games playing tight arse defense recently.
Defense wins in the playoffs.
I love Hawk, but he is more likely to play more when CJ is hurt or needs some rest - basically what happened already this season.
Cj had a collapsed lung etc.
re: Victory Wembanyama has made more 3s than Brandon Ingram this season
Posted by paulbeasy on 2/15/24 at 8:13 am to TigerinATL
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If you can't see that I'm pointing out a rookie center has taken and made more 3s than our All Star caliber 3 level wing scorer who has been told repeatedly to take more 3s, I don't know what to tell you.
Youre a fricking idiot.
We’re 33-22 - we are trying to win games.
The Spurs are 11-44 - their only objective is to let Wemby develop.
Its that simple and regularly done in the NBA with potential superstars.
And 31% from 3 is horrible, anyone not named Wemby would get benched for shooting that poorly that much. He has a green light with a poor % for a reason.
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