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Comments from Jameis and Cesar are reasons to fire Allen

Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:41 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:41 pm
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Jameis Winston on that final score: “We got an interception to the 1-yard line. If we would’ve scored, would it still have been disrespectful? When you return the ball to the 1-yard line, you have the opportunity. We had the opportunity and we just decided.”


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Cesar Ruiz on Jamaal's late TD: When you’ve got a guy like that who comes in & works his arse off every single day, day in & day out & was the touchdown champion the year before & he doesn’t have one, I just wouldn’t be able to go to sleep at night knowing I didn’t get him one.


You have to fire Allen after this. Even in a win he looks absolutely pathetic.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:44 pm to
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You have to fire Allen after this. Even in a win he looks absolutely pathetic.

Everybody will be disappointed, I'm afraid.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32946 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:44 pm to
Unfortunately I have no say in the matter.

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71554 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:47 pm to
Such a failure to read the room. Makes him look weak because they don't listen to him and weaker for apologizing for running it up on a hated rival.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16988 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:50 pm to
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You have to fire Allen after this. Even in a win he looks absolutely pathetic.


If true, Jameis has to be cut immediately

Not tomorrow, NOW

Cant have players going rogue.

An example must be made, and it has to happen now
Posted by aruss15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
569 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:50 pm to
You sound like someone who gets pegged
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28862 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:51 pm to
Seriously. Allen would have absolutely won me over if that was his call.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16328 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:52 pm to
Why just cut Winston? Do you cut the other 10 people that were involved in that play too?
Posted by GreenTiger12
Port City
Member since Oct 2016
72 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:53 pm to
Fire Allen now. Who cares about the falcons, maybe care about your players
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29927 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:54 pm to
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You have to fire Allen after this. Even in a win he looks absolutely pathetic.
Everybody will be disappointed, I'm afraid.


i agree ^^^^^^

its clear the players lost total respect for DA and think its in their option to help a guy out is ok.

i see both sides but its like this, if HB scores then great, if you are going to push it in im ok with that if its HB getting the ball so its his TD

otherwise, the attempt to use the long return as an excuse to give the RB (who hadnt played all year due to injury) a score at that point, is weak to blame that long return, as the reason for them going for it.

i get why they feel that way, but no, as professionals, you shouldnt be spiking the ball adding garbage time scores with 1:03 left in the game
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 5:59 pm
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16988 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:55 pm to
The QB gets the play from the sideline and runs the play

When they start dojng what they feel like you have anarchy

If Allen doesnt cut him tomorrow, he needs to go too
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32592 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:55 pm to
The head coach should have been the one calling for the veteran to get a TD to close out the season. It should have been supported by the entire team.

frick Allen, he’s an absolute embarrassment.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10898 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:58 pm to
Dennis should have said ya originally we were thinking victory formation but when you have an opportunity to maybe improve your offense by getting a quality offensive mind fired from him HC job and maybe create an opportunity to get him as your OC then you have to take the opportunity. You miss 100% of the shot you don’t take.

Then just walk off.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7634 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:59 pm to
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If true, Jameis has to be cut immediately

Not tomorrow, NOW


What? He was 100% correct in what he said. Tyrann could have scored and it wouldn't have been running it up. frick DA. frick Arthur Smith.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20350 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:17 pm to
Whole thing needs to be blown up.

Allen, and the core of this team. Just reboot and start trying to build again.

Jameis said it, but Taysom was out there on the field. He could have stopped it in the huddle, could have said "nah, just run the fricking play he called. It's 41-17, we won. Don't run a fake kneel-down". He didn't.

Allen has to go because he has zero respect or control of the team. Loomis needs to meet with every single player involved, and get rid of whoever feels like they don't need to listen to their coach.

Understand, this wasn't freelancing a play trying to win, because you think you have a feel for what will work in a big moment- it was blatantly disobeying your head coach to intentionally run up the score more.

Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11695 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:18 pm to
He won't make it past week 4 next year. This whole off season will be a complete waste of time.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
11965 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:20 pm to
Any other opponent = disrespect.
Falcons ? frick ‘em !
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30107 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:25 pm to
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i see both sides but its like this, if HB scores then great, if you are going to push it in im ok with that if its HB getting the ball so its his TD

otherwise, the attempt to use the long return as an excuse to give the RB (who hadnt played all year due to injury) a score at that point, is weak to blame that long return, as the reason for them going for it.

i get why they feel that way, but no, as professionals, you shouldnt be spiking the ball adding garbage time scores with 1:03 left in the game



I agree with this. To me, TM was clearly trying to take time off the clock and not score so the Saints could kneel it out. In that vein, I feel it is also a bit disrespectful to TM, in my opinion. This may very well have been his last game and he looked to give up a pick 6 for the team, I guess he should have just scored.

ETA: Since it was against the Falcons, though, I kinda OK with it Is that wrong?

ETA1:I had not heard his press conference when I posted this. Based on that I would say my take is wrong. It seems he did not realize those guys were still chasing him down, and said he should have known they would be. He did say that it worked out so Williams could get the TD.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 7:22 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20350 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:41 pm to
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Any other opponent = disrespect.
Falcons ? frick ‘em !
I see I got downvoted... people need to look at what happened.

Look, I love that we scored again. I wish Mathieu would have ran it back. I love stomping the Falcons.

That isn't the issue.

The issue is the head coach said "no, don't do that". In the post-game conference, he even acknowledged that players asked if they could get a score 'for Jamal', and he said NO. They then went out, lined up in Victory Formation, and said frick that guy, we're doing this anyway.

Like I said, the whole thing needs to be blown up. You don't want a coach who the players don't respect, and you don't want players who defy a coach's explicit order.
Posted by Spaniard
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2011
751 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:49 pm to
You haven't heard the last of this type of stuff. It will start leaking out as players from the Payton era start being jettisoned.
Those guys were led by an alpha while Allen has been completely cucked.
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