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Bill Simmons and Ben Solak are not buying the Saints hype

Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:02 pm
They are incredulous that the Saints have the same +135 odds to win the NFC South that the Bills have to win the AFC East.

Both diss Derek Carr and Solak talks about all the talent we've shed on defense the last 3 off-seasons. He compliments Dennis Allen as a very good DC but they both comment that his HC record is very bad.

They scoff at @cantguardmike ("pfft.. goof luck with that!") and they agree that the Falcons are where the smart money is at. That ATL's RB heavy scheme is a smart "zig" while most every other team is "zagging" and that it will translate very well record wise. Nobody will like playing Atlanta, they hypothesize.

Listen here mates - and leave your replies below

FWIW - I pick the Saints to win the NFC South and at least one playoff game
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37424 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

Bill Simmons


Is this guy ever right?
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
742 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:18 pm to
Any fan who is being truly honest about this year would say they are optimistic but have no clue what the hell will happen this season. Everyone is doing and saying the right things. I have no idea if that means we are going to any good or not.
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77520 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:26 pm to
I mean... who is better in the south?
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
2223 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:56 pm to
I would feel a hell of a lot better if we hired an offensive coordinator
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32409 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:58 pm to
They have the same odds because the afc east is a gauntlet while the nfc south is best of the shitty.

If it was sb odds, that's saying something. But it's just winning a division.
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
742 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:12 pm to
It's the NFL, who knows. Carr could come out and be a top 10 QB, he could also come out and throw 20 picks. Are we going to have a pass rush? Is this the year Cam Jordan is done? Is Michael Thomas going to be actually healthy? How many games will Kamara be suspended for and is the 3rd Round RB we drafted as good as we think he is? Is Pete Carmichael going to do a much better job this season? Personally I think we can win 10-11 games, but I wouldn't be shocked if we win 6.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:29 am to
That’s because they aren’t Saints homers and can see with honest eyes what this team was last year and who Carr has been. Doesn’t mean they are right, but their assessment is fair.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:31 am to
quote:

they agree that the Falcons are where the smart money is at.


Yeah, that's always been a safe bet..
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:32 am to
quote:

Any fan who is being truly honest about this year would say they are optimistic but have no clue what the hell will happen this season.
I don't have any faith in anything.

So if we have a winning record, I'll be pleasantly surprised. I've been a fan since before the rebirth..I remember how to stifle my hopes and set the bar low.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 2:44 am
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:11 am to
Carolina is a the best bet imo. For +370 you get the best QB in the division (might be immediately, but will be the best by year 2 guaranteed)

They should have won the division last year, but Darnold and Baker were aids.

They have a lot of overall talent on the roster. If Bryce is anything close to being ready year 1, they will flirt with 10 wins.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 3:12 am
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13707 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:52 am to
quote:

Bill Simmons


Top 3 worst sports talker, and that list includes dozens of d-bags
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21270 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:33 am to
If the Saints do anything historically well, it is welcoming new starters and backups to the field of play allowing close to career performances.
It would not even be a slight surprise if Young throws for 400 + yards on Monday night football against the Saints and blows the Saints off the field.
Posted by James Woods
Dallas
Member since Dec 2012
232 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:07 am to
Maybe i wasn’t paying close enough attention but Ridder didn’t really show me much at the end of last year. Ridder needs to take a huge step forward for Atlanta to be decent
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25120 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:21 am to
Many of you seem to be forgetting that Lattimore was out half the season
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13856 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Bill Simmons


Is this guy ever right?


He called it last season that we would suck and that DA is a terrible head coach.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:54 am to
I mean if we're talking just betting futures, ATL is a better bet than Nola. I didn't listen, but was that the focus?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32446 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:56 am to
Bill Simmons is a fricking arse clown. He must have gotten raped in New Orleans. He hates everything thing New Orleans sports related.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19625 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:30 am to
Atlanta could be the better play if they had an NFL QB. We have proven over the last two seasons that it doesn't matter what you have on your team if you are trotting out a replacement level QB every week.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23707 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:35 am to
What hype? No one outside of New Orleans has them doing anything.
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