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Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:24 pm to Stoic Poser
You could possible read the second sentence:
I'd almost feel bad for Stalin for what Carr is about to endure
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He is going to get paid 10s of millions of dollars to be very average to below average at QB, so obviously, I don't feel that bad for him.
I'd almost feel bad for Stalin for what Carr is about to endure
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:25 pm to Fun Bunch
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He is going to get annihilated this year. He is not a very mobile guy, has gone through a lot of injuries, but this OL is going to be probably league worst. He is going to get waves of DL just T'ing off on him and he won't make it the year. Its going to be very, very bad.
Its going to be like what his brother went through in Houston. Possibly worse since he is older than his brother was
What I would love to know is how much input the new offensive staff had. Dennison and benton along with Kubiak.
Let's see if they bring someone in. They didn't do much at left guard either. Patrick hasn't been great either.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:28 pm to High Life
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Carr was never going to succeed because he’s just not very good. If he needs an all star O-line to have any success then why is he getting $40 million per year? (Because his agent is a wizard) Carr is the most veteran quarterback in the nfl without a playoff win. At what point do you start looking at the common denominator?
Who is talking about an all star o line?
Just don't give him penning at rt. He is going to get smoked by inside moves all year.
Ruin is average at best. LG is unknown and not in a good position as of now. You have a rookie that played rt in college taking over lt(love fuaga by the way)
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:39 pm to High Life
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Lol some of y’all are not worth arguing with. Carr is close to last in production per game. His overall season production is usually somewhere in the middle of the pack. That’s because there’s at least 3-4 journeymen back ups starting (Heinicke/minshew), another handful that have injuries and miss half a dozen games (burrow/cousins) and then there’s another few rookies that are in dumpster fire
But I thought you said he played like a backup worth only 10 mil.
Backup/bridge guys like minshew are making 15 mil.
Carr isn't some great qb. He has to have a good o line and some weapons. It just is what it is.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:38 pm to Chalkywhite84
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But I thought you said he played like a backup worth only 10 mil. Backup/bridge guys like minshew are making 15 mil.
Ok sure he’s worth 15 then. That make you feel better?
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He has to have a good o line and some weapons. It just is what it is.
And then what? He’ll finally win a playoff game.
Lol I agree our o line is bad. But I’ve never in my life seen so many excuses for a quarterback. Carr is as bad of a quarterback as our O line is at blocking
Posted on 8/12/24 at 9:06 pm to Fun Bunch
Andy Dalton outplayed Carr.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 9:07 pm to High Life
Carr threw everyone under the bus last year when he struggled. It was everyone's fault but his. I don't feel sorry for him.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 9:09 pm to Fun Bunch
They should make Loomis line up at QB for a series behind the line he assembled.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:19 pm to PhillyTiger90
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Bright side is I think we’ll find out fairly soon whether Rattler is the real deal or not.
***Spoiler Alert***
He isn’t
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:35 pm to High Life
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Lol some of y’all are not worth arguing with. Carr is close to last in production per game. His overall season production is usually somewhere in the middle of the pack.
Stats aren’t everything but like I said he finished the season very strong with an antiquated offense.
He was the 6th rated qb in the NFL for comp %
He was 13th overall in passing yards.,
He was 10th overall in passing touchdowns
He was 10th overall in qb rating
He was 17th overall in total qb rating
Not sure how you compile stats that are within the top ten of the league when you are last in production per game….
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:10 am to Chad504boy
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need to be a much better screen and swing pass team. taysom needs to be utilized in ways to keep a defense honest
I suspect we are going to see a lot of play-action and misdirection in the offense, along with Taysom used somewhat in a Debo Samuels type role (but more QB like and less WR like). The Payton offense had the luxury of letting Drew masterfully navigate the pocket and make plays. Carr isn't Drew and this OL is garbage. .
How successful that will be will depend upon if the Saints can develop some sort of running game. But I can't imagine Kubiak is going to let Carr just stand in one spot and allow the DL to walk Penning, Ruiz, etc right back into him
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:24 am to Townedrunkard
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Not sure how you compile stats that are within the top ten of the league when you are last in production per game….
Complied a lot of numbers when it didn’t matter. 20-30 point wins vs NE CAR NYG ATL. Our opponents were 40 games under .500, we somehow missed the playoffs with Mr Top 10 stats. Pressure makes diamonds and buddy is a CZ
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:33 am to Townedrunkard
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He was 13th overall in passing yards.,
He was 10th overall in passing touchdowns
Played most of all 17 games, whereas, some QBs missed games.
His 13th overall in passing yards would be 20th in yards per game
His 10th in passing TDs would be 18th in TDs per game
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He was 13th overall in passing yards.,
He was 17th overall in total qb rating
18th in TDs per game
32 teams in the NFL, these are basically in that middle of the pack range of 13-19
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:35 am to GynoSandberg
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Complied a lot of numbers when it didn’t matter
Don't all QBs do this? How many games were players like Tua still putting up big numbers in the 4th when they were playing with big leads?
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Our opponents were 40 games under .500, we somehow missed the playoffs with Mr Top 10 stats.
No question that Carr's play added to missing the playoffs, but he wasn't the only issue that caused this team to miss the playoffs.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:06 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Don't all QBs do this? How many games were players like Tua still putting up big numbers in the 4th when they were playing with big leads?
Wasn’t just games we won. Games like JAX where you go down 24-9 and we didn’t score a TD til the 4th, MIN where you’re down 24-3 at half, DET where you’re down 24-7 at half, Rams when you go down 27-7. Lot of garbage time 3rd and 4th quarters, games out of hand, the pressure is gone.
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No question that Carr's play added to missing the playoffs, but he wasn't the only issue that caused this team to miss the playoffs.
People want to blame Carmichael, sure. Carr’s has ran through many OCs, it’s funny how that’s always an excuse for him, but maybe he’s just an OC/HC killer. Just go back through the schedule and look at the opportunities we had to win games. You have to score TDs to stay in games. He’s won 45% of his career starts. There’s ample evidence of him not being a winner
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:08 am to Fun Bunch
Like you say it is the OL. They are not good. The QBs will look bad, the RBs will look bad, the WRs will look bad. Pointless to blame any of these position players. Just hope the defense can score.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:56 am to Townedrunkard
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Not sure how you compile stats that are within the top ten of the league when you are last in production per game….
I can explain it over and over again. But I’ll never be able to understand it for you. That’s up to you. EVERY SINGLE QB that had less production than Carr played less games than Carr. Now go ahead and cherry pick some vague stat that makes Derek look better than he actually is. But when it comes to moving the ball forward and putting it into the end zone for points, he’s not very good at that. Also you could just go watch almost any game he’s played in the last 10 years and you’d realize his flaws
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:58 am to GynoSandberg
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He’s won 45% of his career starts. There’s ample evidence of him not being a winner
I mean guys like Eli manning, Warren moon, Drew Bledsoe, and Matthew Stafford are all at 50% or less.
I thought people say that games won isn't a qb stat.
Imo Carr just is who he is. A guy that can operate an offense as long as the line holds up and he has weapons. He isn't going to make something out of nothing.
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