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Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:56 am to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:56 am to
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What that means as far as the team lying, I don't know.
If you don't think he had a concussion, 1 of those 2 things have to be true, correct?

Either BI faked it and failed it on purpose, or he passed and the team lied for some weird reason so he can sit out some extra games while healthy.

I'm not sure what other options it could be?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Either BI faked it and failed it on purpose, or he passed and the team lied for some weird reason so he can sit out some extra games while healthy.


I don't care which one it is, my opinion is that he didn't have a concussion. I'm not looking for other options. Neither one of those seem out of the realm of possibility though. I guess telling the league that "he passed but we still think he might have one and prefer that to be what is listed" then they technically wouldn't be lying. It's not like guys don't sit out with injuries they don't have all the time.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Neither one of those seem out of the realm of possibility though
Agree to disagree

I see no logic or advantage in either of those options.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:23 pm to
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I see no logic or advantage in either of those options.


The logic is pretty simple, you have a listed injury that let's your guy sit out. And in this case, as usual, longer than what is normal.

You watch that video and honestly believe that he got a concussion? Or that he should have missed that much time from a brushstroke from the back of a hand?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:36 pm to
It doesn’t matter if he had a concussion or not, had it happen to say Russell Westbrook, or KG, they wouldn’t have missed a single game b/c they would have never let the test for a concussion to even happen b/c they would have just brushed off the contact at the time and kept playing.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:45 pm to
KG is nonsensical and that doesn’t happen in todays NBA. Concussions are a big deal and protocols need to be followed medically. I know this bugs the old school people who think athletes should play through brain damage but he was concussed and had to pass protocol. Now what that protocol was I dont know. Im not excusing that BI may have a low pain tolerance but not sure how we’re knocking him for being concussed and following protocol. Other stuff, I might understand.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:47 pm to
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The logic is pretty simple, you have a listed injury that let's your guy sit out
For your 2nd best player who is not injured. That would be a disadvantage, how do you get to the logic where that is an advantage for the Pelicans?

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You watch that video and honestly believe that he got a concussion?
I watch NFL videos every weekend and wonder how a guy wasn't hurt more or a seemingly innocent hit caused a injury as bad as it was. That's pretty common.

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:50 pm to
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It doesn’t matter if he had a concussion or not, had it happen to say Russell Westbrook, or KG, they wouldn’t have missed a single game b/c they would have never let the test for a concussion to even happen b/c they would have just brushed off the contact at the time and kept playing.

That's not how concussion protocol works, KG would not have told them no thanks to it, it doesn't work like that.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:26 pm to
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For your 2nd best player who is not injured. That would be a disadvantage, how do you get to the logic where that is an advantage for the Pelicans?



Load management. Teams best players sit out all the time. It's an issue with the NBA and has been for years. This was basically an extended load management and BI being soft. He's sat out longer than he should for other injuries, I have no reason to think he wouldn't do it for lesser stuff.

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I watch NFL videos every weekend and wonder how a guy wasn't hurt more or a seemingly innocent hit caused a injury as bad as it was. That's pretty common.


Well that didn't answer the question The NFL is a different ballgame. And I've never seen an NFL player get a concussion from something that soft, ever.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:36 pm to
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Load management. Teams best players sit out all the time.
I don't think it's correct to state that teams best players sit out all the time for load management for 13 days at a time.

Guys may sit out end of year, but that's to tank, like Dame has done the past 2 seasons.

But i'd argue again, I see no logic in stating that a player played the 1st 2-3 games of the season, then took 13 days off for load management.
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:13 pm to
BI has not earned load management im sorry.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:13 pm to
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That's not how concussion protocol works, KG would not have told them no thanks to it, it doesn't work like that.


You’re not following what I’m saying.
If you want to be a bitch when the incident happens and pretend to be hurt and pretend to be dazed and what not, then they have to put you through the concussion tests and what not.
If you simply brush off the contact from the get go, and just man up and continue with the game, then no one knows anything even happen, and hence won’t do any concussion testing.

The problem I see with kids today is they are constantly wanting the attention of being hurt. They see it on tv all the time so they think that’s the thing to do anytime you fall down or someone touches you.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:17 pm to
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If you want to be a bitch when the incident happens and pretend to be hurt and pretend to be dazed and what not, then they have to put you through the concussion tests and what not.

The tests said he had a concussion, which nullifies your point about pretending.
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If you simply brush off the contact from the get go, and just man up and continue with the game, then no one knows anything even happen, and hence won’t do any concussion testing.
Unless you're injured enough to have a concussion.



You're reviewing this under the guise that he wasn't really hurt, but maybe just maybe, he was...again he was diagnosed with a concussion. if you're saying he's pretending, that goes back to the argument that he faked/failed the test on purpose or he passed and we lied about it to give him 13 days of rest after 2 games into the season for...what reason?
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:16 pm to
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The problem I see with kids today is they are constantly wanting the attention of being hurt. They see it on tv all the time so they think that’s the thing to do anytime you fall down or someone touches you.



wtf lol


Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:59 pm to
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wtf lol


If you don’t know what I’m talking about then you either don’t have young kids playing sports or your part of the pussification of this country.
I’ve seen dozens of kids from ages 8-12 get carried off the field, only to go back in 10 minutes later.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:03 pm to
We got to stop comparing a 27 year old adult professional to 8-12 year old kids. Its a nonsensical comparison and honestly a stupid one. What BI is doing has nothing to do with how 8-12 year old kids get carried off the field.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:00 pm to
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The tests said he had a concussion, which nullifies your point about pretending.

I’d bet if they tested the whole team after tonight’s game a few could have a “concussion”. these tests are ridiculous.
That’s my point. I’m not saying he didn’t test for one. I’m saying he most likely didn’t need to, and it would have been no harm to him if he didn’t get a test and kept playing, b/c the head contact he received wasn’t enough to cause a two week concussion on, b/c if it did then every football player would have a concussion after every game.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:46 pm to
The baws from the 90s laugh at these friggin sissies.

Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14537 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:24 pm to
Gotta start wondering if Ingram just wants a trade and this bullshite is his way of trying to get it.

He was last one of the bench to congratulate teammates in timeouts, and first one off the bench to the locker room and didn’t say anything to anyone.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9142 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:25 pm to
You’re reading way too much into that. Like way too much lol
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