- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: This wolves/mavs series should show you why you need a top end star for Zion.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 3:22 am to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 5/31/24 at 3:22 am to whatiknowsofar
Agreed. We are going nowhere. We might as well take a swing at someone that led their team to the ECF early in their career and then dropped 48 points in game 1 after they got there. Also a generational passing talent that would match up well with Zion and Trey Offensively.
1
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
How did Boston get their 2 stars (Tatum and Brown)?
How did they go from contender to 60+ win team? This years Celtics are much better than any team they’ve had over the last 5 years. If we trade away first round picks, we’ll have protections on them.
Did you make that comment because you enjoy arguing or do you actually have a point to make?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:23 am to saintslsupels
quote:
Did you make that comment because you enjoy arguing or do you actually have a point to make?
My point was refuting your point. I'll remind you what you posted (and I quoted)
quote:
Boston kept hoarding first round picks with Ainge. They seem to have gotten over the hump once Ainge left and they started trading picks.
This thread is about how to acquire that 2nd star. Boston did that through the draft. It was a terrible example to use in this thread.
Boston filled out ancillary pieces by dealing picks.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Yes thanks for the reminder I had no idea they drafted Tatum and Brown.
Boston traded a very old KG for picks.
Remind me again how Boston got KG? And Ray Allen? You’re such a basketball savant I’m sure you would know, can you please tell me?
Celtics are still doing great all these years later because they decided to make big trades.
Do you disagree? Do you think we should hold onto all of our picks and pray we draft an all star with mid to late firsts?
Boston traded a very old KG for picks.
Remind me again how Boston got KG? And Ray Allen? You’re such a basketball savant I’m sure you would know, can you please tell me?
Celtics are still doing great all these years later because they decided to make big trades.
Do you disagree? Do you think we should hold onto all of our picks and pray we draft an all star with mid to late firsts?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:15 am to saintslsupels
Celtics had a contender last year, and then went out and upgraded Marcus Smart to Jrue Holiday and added Porzingis.
Dallas did not have a contender, but upgraded Grant Williams to PJ and added Gafford, and now look at them.
Trading BI has to be for an upgrade. Simple as that.
Same can be said for CJ when that time comes.
Dallas did not have a contender, but upgraded Grant Williams to PJ and added Gafford, and now look at them.
Trading BI has to be for an upgrade. Simple as that.
Same can be said for CJ when that time comes.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:35 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:.
Also a generational passing talent
Goodness, pump the brakes.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:39 am to TeddyPadillac
They didn't value young talent that they knew didn't get them over the hump. They brought in good players when their value was down while continually hiring good coaches.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:43 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
This wolves/mavs series should show you why you need a top end star for Zion
Completely agree
quote:
Go get trae young
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:50 am to shel311
quote:
quote:
Celtics terrible matchup for Mavs. White and Holiday (both just a notch below Herb on defensive end) will slow down Luka and Kyrie
No one will slow down Luka.
JMO...I think Celtics will end up around 2/1 favorites by Vegas to win this series vs the Mavs. Mavs are FAR from being the best team in the West. Just stumbled into the perfect matchup situation to make the finals.
What would be the series odds if it were Celtics vs Nuggets in the Finals? Whatever you think it would be...I assure you it would NOT be anywhere close to 2/1 Celtics like it will be for their matchup with the Mavs....and for a good reason.
Having said that...it IS the NBA so I assume they will find a way for the Mavs to win a coupla games & keep it competitive in the other games.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 10:52 am
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:54 am to Dinky Mulberry
quote:
JMO...I think Celtics will end up around 2/1 favorites by Vegas to win this series vs the Mavs. Mavs are FAR from being the best team in the West. Just stumbled into the perfect matchup situation to make the finals.
What would be the series odds if it were Celtics vs Nuggets in the Finals? Whatever you think it would be...I assure you it would NOT be 2/1 Celtics like it will be for their matchup with the Mavs....and for a good reason.
Having said that...it IS the NBA so I assume they will find a way for the Mavs to win a coupla games & keep it competitive in the other games.
I'm not so sure. I think it's arguable the Mavs have the best two players in the matchup.
Now everything else is definitely in the Celtics favor.
Coaching is probably a wash. I don't think either is all that good.
Jrue kinda chokes a lot IMO. I trust Luka and Kyrie more to make big shots. Porzingis will likely re-injure himself by game 3.
I'm going the other way. Mavs in 6. The Celtics haven't played anyone good yet. Miami without Butler. Cleveland without Mitchell. Indiana without Haliburton.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:17 am to ghost2most
I think betting the Mavs to win it is a good value bet right now. I did it, well actually I bet for Luka to be MVP as that was better odds than just the Mavs winning it. If the Mavs win, it's about a 99% chance Luka is the MVP.
They have the best player in the series, and the other guy has won a championship and is considered one of the best closers in the game. Brown isn't anywhere near Luka and Kyrie's level, and Tatum has yet to prove he can be the closer those two can.
The east was horrible this year. The Celtics are a good team, but literally the rest of the east is a play-in team at best in the West.
The Celtics defense the last two series really hasn't been all that great.
I know Jrue can give Luka trouble, but it really doesn't matter who guards him. He's so much bigger than everyone else and uses his body so well he still gets whatever shot he wants. In order for the Celtics to win they need to stop Kyrie in the 4th quarter. They aren't stopping Luka. And if Porzingis or Horford are out there both Luka and Kyrie will destroy them one on one and make them both be spectators late in games.
They have the best player in the series, and the other guy has won a championship and is considered one of the best closers in the game. Brown isn't anywhere near Luka and Kyrie's level, and Tatum has yet to prove he can be the closer those two can.
The east was horrible this year. The Celtics are a good team, but literally the rest of the east is a play-in team at best in the West.
The Celtics defense the last two series really hasn't been all that great.
I know Jrue can give Luka trouble, but it really doesn't matter who guards him. He's so much bigger than everyone else and uses his body so well he still gets whatever shot he wants. In order for the Celtics to win they need to stop Kyrie in the 4th quarter. They aren't stopping Luka. And if Porzingis or Horford are out there both Luka and Kyrie will destroy them one on one and make them both be spectators late in games.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:23 am to ghost2most
quote:
I'm going the other way. Mavs in 6. The Celtics haven't played anyone good yet. Miami without Butler. Cleveland without Mitchell. Indiana without Haliburton.
Celtics have definitely had the mother of all "cakewalks" so far. I'm just waiting to make sure Porz is available before betting the Celts for the series. Gonna have to load up on this one...if Celtics can't win it all this year...I'm not sure they ever will. To be honest, this has turned out to be a weak year for the West.
Nuggets ran out of gas vs Wolves, who are a team basically built to beat the Nuggets...and not much of anybody else. Suns down...Lakers down...Clippers down...OKC still a year or two away...it's been a strange year and the perfect storm for the Mavs to sneak into the finals.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:37 am to Dinky Mulberry
quote:I'm pretty sure the Clippers, then Thunder, then Minnesota were all the betting favorites against the Mavs to start each series
Mavs are FAR from being the best team in the West. Just stumbled into the perfect matchup situation to make the finals.
Yes, they avoided DEN, but they played the 4, 1, and 3 seed. It was not an easy road. Now Boston, THAT was an easy path to the Finals lol.
quote:Again, the Mavs won 3 series now as an underdog...
Having said that...it IS the NBA so I assume they will find a way for the Mavs to win a coupla games & keep it competitive in the other games.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:35 pm to Dinky Mulberry
quote:
Nuggets ran out of gas vs Wolves
Denver got their asses kicked in games 1 and 2 and were lucky to not get swept.
quote:
To be honest, this has turned out to be a weak year for the West.
The west was much weaker last year. Denver got to face Minnesota without McDaniels and Reid. The Grizzlies and kings were jokes as the 2 and 3 seed. Kawhi, Kyrie and Luka were all hurt to end the season. And then the nuggets got to face the heat in the finals who barely made it out of the playin and were without their leading scorer.
Losing in 7 to the Wolves was the best case for the Nuggets because they would have been embarrassed by the Mavs.
quote:
I'm just waiting to make sure Porz is available before betting the Celts for the series. Gonna have to load up on this one
Good luck. The Mavs have the 2 best players in the series and will dominate the boards, whether porzingas plays or not.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:05 pm to mhasen1
quote:
Good luck. The Mavs have the 2 best players in the series and will dominate the boards, whether porzingas plays or not.
OK...maybe I read it wrong and Vegas has the Mavs as a 2/1 favorite to win the Finals instead of the Celtics.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:45 pm to Chalkywhite84
Apparently not
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:43 pm to whatiknowsofar
I just can’t fathom taking his contract on. I agree he’s a great player on offense but Willie is a defense guy. I think he’d much rather Murray than young and maybe get a 1st from Atlanta too. I dunno, it’s going to be interesting what happens. I’m most curious what the plan is for center. If you did take on Young’s contract you’d have to go cheap at center. Jonas is projected to get a $12.9 million per year contract which is the MLE. Remember though we still have to give Trey $100 million too.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:14 pm to Dinky Mulberry
quote:Vegas also told you the Mavs would lose all 3 series they played this postseason.
OK...maybe I read it wrong and Vegas has the Mavs as a 2/1 favorite to win the Finals instead of the Celtics.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News