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re: The Trade Jrue Holiday challenge
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
Minny is in the buyers market and they are actively shopping the first pick. They might be able to get a better player than Jrue, but they are in win now mode to keep KAT there and wanting to stay.
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:39 pm to Bronc
Knicks: Lonzo
Blazers: Jrue, Redick
Pelicans: McCollum, Collins, Ntilikina, #8
Then package 8 and 13 to go up and get Hayes
Blazers: Jrue, Redick
Pelicans: McCollum, Collins, Ntilikina, #8
Then package 8 and 13 to go up and get Hayes
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
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are you expecting to suck in 2022?
I don't.
There's no reason we shouldn't win 50 games, unless Zion or BI or hurt for a substantial amount of time.
Ahhh, the Dell Demps school of trading. BI is just 1 year removed from a blood clot surgery and Zion played 24 games. Besides injury, we are in the West in a tough division and our team construct is extremely fluid. Banking on 50 wins 2 seasons from now seems really short sighted. You simply cannot give up unprotected picks in a trade unless it is for a superstar.
MPJ is a very good scorer/shooter for his size and good rebounder, but he played 16 min per game and averaged 9 points in the regular season, 24 min and 11 pts in the playoffs. He has been targeted on defense and he's openly calling out his coach as a rookie. When you add the long term medical issues, there is no way I risk even a 5% chance at Emoni Bates for MPJ.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:46 pm to purplepylon
That's an interesting one. I'd rather attach a future 1st > JJ and try to get another player from JJ in a separate deal.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:54 pm to TechTiger
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Minny is in the buyers market and they are actively shopping the first pick. They might be able to get a better player than Jrue, but they are in win now mode to keep KAT there and wanting to stay.
well they are idiots.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:57 pm to NOFOX
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Banking on 50 wins 2 seasons from now seems really short sighted.
If we aren't winning 50 games in 2 seasons, then BI and Zion are not the all stars we are all expecting them to be.
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he's openly calling out his coach as a rookie.
didn't know about this. that's a bit concerning.
I know his medical issues, and the defensive stuff, but he has the potential to be a great NBA player. Some might not think it's worth the risk, some will.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 5:38 pm to ForeverLSU5
I would never do that deal if I'm the Heat
Posted on 9/25/20 at 6:37 pm to TheWhitemamba16
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Not one of these trades would the other team be happy and actually go through with it.. you guys have way to much value on jrue....
It's why I generally ignore trade threads.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 6:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
Don’t get me wrong jrue will be an easy player to trade but just not for what you guys want. To the right team where he can be the 3rd or for option on a contender y’all could get some assets. I don’t think any team will give you much in the sense of now assets. Most of them will be down the line as the team acquiring jrue will be in win now mode..
I’ve also seen some Jj trades involving players younger and better then jj plus getting 2 1sts,. No one is giving up a player of equal status and younger plus 2 1sts for jj. He’s the most overrated trade asset on this board
I’ve also seen some Jj trades involving players younger and better then jj plus getting 2 1sts,. No one is giving up a player of equal status and younger plus 2 1sts for jj. He’s the most overrated trade asset on this board
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:36 pm to Fun Bunch
Jrue, Miller, and 2021 1st for PG13
BI moves to the two and have a ton of length.
Clips get a defender that pairs better with Kawhi to let him play his natural position and the Clippers 1-3 are the best defensive unit in basketball and still have shooting and flexibility, if they need. Recoup a 1st round pick
BI moves to the two and have a ton of length.
Clips get a defender that pairs better with Kawhi to let him play his natural position and the Clippers 1-3 are the best defensive unit in basketball and still have shooting and flexibility, if they need. Recoup a 1st round pick
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:04 am to BallHawk
Compared to what they gave up to get George, they would hang up immediately
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:05 am to TheWhitemamba16
I don’t see them getting anything close to equal value. They may not get anything better than that.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:08 am to BallHawk
And that’s why he don’t be traded...
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:56 am to TeddyPadillac
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I know his medical issues, and the defensive stuff, but he has the potential to be a great NBA player. Some might not think it's worth the risk, some will.
Yeah, the medical issues and attitude are enough for me to say no thanks, but I also don’t think he fits great with Zion and Ingram from a roster construction viewpoint. The defense is a problem and I don’t want 45% of my salary in two front court players who don’t defend well and play the same position. I’d want to Invest my cap in a guard and play a cheaper 3&D big with Zion.
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 6:57 am
Posted on 9/26/20 at 11:40 pm to Bronc
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Of course it is amongst the better deals in this thread, because it’s not realistic.
I like the trade to. He’s a little younger than Jrue but about the same caliber player. So why is it not realistic?
Posted on 9/27/20 at 7:23 am to TheWhitemamba16
Way to much value on a top 25 player in the league?
So much that we shouldn't expect to recieve 2- top 75 players (one a top 50) in return?
If you say so.
So much that we shouldn't expect to recieve 2- top 75 players (one a top 50) in return?
If you say so.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 8:11 am to Townedrunkard
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I like the trade to. He’s a little younger than Jrue but about the same caliber player. So why is it not realistic?
I mean you just sort of explained it.
Brogdon is a younger, similar caliber player. That additionally is more diverse offensively and is getting paid 6 million less a year and is locked up until 23-24.
Why would Indy want to trade a piece like that, entering his prime, for a 30 year old expiring Jrue Holiday?
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:48 am to Fun Bunch
A very simple Jrue for Paul George swap does both teams good
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:55 am to Lester Earl
Logically it makes sense. It’s hard to get over how poor Wayoff P has done in the playoffs, and how many teammates seem to criticize him after the fact.
Him next to BI makes a ton of sense on paper. I just don’t love him as a player. You take the risk if it’s on the table though.
Him next to BI makes a ton of sense on paper. I just don’t love him as a player. You take the risk if it’s on the table though.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:16 pm to TheWhitemamba16
Crewz trade idea
But Brogdon and Turner would be too much huh?
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The most fair, and beneficial trade for both sides IMO, would be something like: Satoranksky, Feliciano, #4, Wendell Carter, and future top-10 protected 1st for Jrue
Bulls go into next year with: White-Jrue-Lavine-Porter-Lauri or Thad finishing 5 that could be really nice
But Brogdon and Turner would be too much huh?
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