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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:07 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:07 pm to GOP_Tiger
Agreed. They will pick up some different type of scoring threat from Wood.
But odds are he will kind of implode at some point in the season and be at odds with the team or coach.
They really are relying on Dinwiddie to be consistent, which I’m not 100% sure he is capable of.
But odds are he will kind of implode at some point in the season and be at odds with the team or coach.
They really are relying on Dinwiddie to be consistent, which I’m not 100% sure he is capable of.
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Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:40 pm to GOP_Tiger
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It's not. I think they are going miss Brunson and take a step back this season.
I don't agree. They get back Hardaway and have Dinwiddie for the full season. It is a big team with no small guards. I could see them making a move and adding someone. I really thought they would be a team making a move for Sexton. But they don't seem to be worried and seem content with what they have.. Deep, vet team with a lot of flexibility..
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:23 am to brmark70816
quote:the mavs are handcuffed and treading water. I’d be very interested in your analysis of how they are a better team today than they were at the end of the season.
I really thought they would be a team making a move for Sexton. But they don't seem to be worried and seem content with what they have.
they stood pat because they didn’t have any other options not because they are content with what they have
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:00 am to cgrand
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I’d be very interested in your analysis
I know it's the offseason and there's not a lot going on, but you can't really be this bored.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:07 am to GOP_Tiger
i'm just fascinated by the fact that no matter the topic, brmark holds the 100% opposite opinion of the consensus 
yes, also bored
yes, also bored
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:21 am to cgrand
quote:I think if you take the full season view and also believe that KP was just not working out there, it makes sense.
I’d be very interested in your analysis of how they are a better team today than they were at the end of the season.
they stood pat because they didn’t have any other options not because they are content with what they have
Remove KP and Brunson but add Dinwiddie/Wood and I'm taking some liberties here but also "adding" THJ back since missing so much time last season.
I get it. But I'd say they can be as good or even better, that certainly doesn't mean I'd expect them to get back to the WCF next season. I mean, there's only 1 spot available since we know the Pels got the other one on lock.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:22 am to cgrand
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the mavs are handcuffed and treading water.
The Mavs are almost $15M over the tax.
If they did a S&T for Sexton, they would be hard capped, which means even if they matched salaries for the Sexton trade, they'd still need to dump over $6M to get under the hard cap.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 11:11 am to cgrand
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I’d be very interested in your analysis of how they are a better team today than they were at the end of the season
They were a top 4 team at the end of last year and seemed to figure a lot of things out. They know what they are now and leaned into it. I just don't see any major holes.
It all goes into your belief of team construction and how you build around a star. Most teams try to find a 2nd or 3rd all star level guy and hope they just fit together. Or you find tough experienced vets that compliment your star and load up around him. That's what the Mavs have done.
People have to pick a side on Brunson and commit to it. Either he helped put them over last year and is a huge loss, which means the Knicks got a potential star and should be getting a ton of praise (which nobody is doing). Or he isn't that great, so the Knicks overpaid and the Mavs will be fine. I lean to the later one. Although I think the Mavs do need a 2nd unit smaller guard that can shoot.
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they stood pat because they didn’t have any other options not because they are content with what they have
They have been very active. Just haven't done anything lately. But the whole league has been stagnant the past couple of weeks waiting on Durant. Things should heat up closer to the beginning of the season..
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:15 pm to brmark70816
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all goes into your belief of team construction and how you build around a star. Most teams try to find a 2nd or 3rd all star level guy and hope they just fit together.
Porzingas.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:56 pm to brmark70816
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People have to pick a side on Brunson and commit to it. Either he helped put them over last year and is a huge loss, which means the Knicks got a potential star and should be getting a ton of praise (which nobody is doing). Or he isn't that great, so the Knicks overpaid and the Mavs will be fine. I lean to the later one. Although I think the Mavs do need a 2nd unit smaller guard that can shoot.
People don’t really need to pick a side on this. He did help put the team over and it will be a significant loss for them. Knicks still probably overpaid for him and don’t really deserve praise for that
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:06 pm to brmark70816
quote:It can be both
People have to pick a side on Brunson and commit to it. Either he helped put them over last year and is a huge loss, which means the Knicks got a potential star and should be getting a ton of praise (which nobody is doing). Or he isn't that great, so the Knicks overpaid and the Mavs will be fine.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:14 pm to Gabe Rippen
y'all need to look at brunson's stats last year, especially finishing at the rim and mid-range. he was top-5 among all guards in the league
the dude is a legitimate donovan mitchell-like scorer and that he did that next to a ball hog like doncic is mind boggling.
mavs got worse
the dude is a legitimate donovan mitchell-like scorer and that he did that next to a ball hog like doncic is mind boggling.
mavs got worse
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:17 pm to cgrand
I think the Mavs got worse by losing him but I also think the Knicks did a MASSIVE overpay for him.
Maybe he becomes what the Knicks have been chasing for years as a franchise centerpiece but this seems like yet another case of the team throwing huge money at a guy in excess of his worth.
Maybe he becomes what the Knicks have been chasing for years as a franchise centerpiece but this seems like yet another case of the team throwing huge money at a guy in excess of his worth.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:22 pm to cgrand
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mavs got worse
The Mavs definitely got worse, but I don't think Brunson is a top 15 guard in the league.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:47 pm to teke184
quote:would you rather have the production or the roster spot? at some point these guys all get paid. if brunson had been a lottery pick nobody would be saying he's overpaid
I think the Mavs got worse by losing him but I also think the Knicks did a MASSIVE overpay for him.
look at the production. he's worth every penny they put up, and more, assuming he keeps getting better.
the mavs meanwhile are lesser without him and i dont think there's a good argument otherwise
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:53 pm to cgrand
One, perception is playing a factor here. Whether Brunson is good or not, he is perceived as a one hit wonder who shined in the playoffs.
Two, if Brunson hadn’t cost the Knicks several guys off their roster plus picks to create the cap space, it could have been seen better.
Paying him this much was a mistake. Paying him this much while dumping a ton of picks and players to Detroit for that right? SERIOUS overpay.
Two, if Brunson hadn’t cost the Knicks several guys off their roster plus picks to create the cap space, it could have been seen better.
Paying him this much was a mistake. Paying him this much while dumping a ton of picks and players to Detroit for that right? SERIOUS overpay.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:24 pm to teke184
sure you can look at that way, but also you can look at their overall offseason, as a whole
IN:
hartenstein
brunson
3 (protected) 1st round picks
OUT:
burks
noel
some 2nd round picks
RE-SIGNED:
mitchell
also, brunson's salary is like 14th or 15th in AAV for point giards in the league
IN:
hartenstein
brunson
3 (protected) 1st round picks
OUT:
burks
noel
some 2nd round picks
RE-SIGNED:
mitchell
also, brunson's salary is like 14th or 15th in AAV for point giards in the league
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:25 pm to cgrand
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Much of the NBA is settling in for a long wait on hold before the Kevin Durant situation is resolved. But one league executive believes there could soon be a chance for clarity at least. “What I’m hearing is that KD is going to meet with the owner this week,” the source told Heavy Sports. “He’s going to go directly to the owner, Joe Tsai, sometime this week. We’ll see how that works.” Whether the intent of the meeting is to smooth over a relationship that suffered at least a hairline fracture when Durant, with four years left on his contract, asked to be traded is uncertain. “I don’t know,” said the exec. “I have no idea what’s going to come of that meeting. There are some things that KD is unhappy about, and I’m not sure any of that gets fixed here. But maybe it does.”
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:34 pm to cgrand
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OUT:
burks
noel
some 2nd round picks
What about the lottery pick they passed on?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:41 pm to brmark70816
what about it?
they passed on duren and dieng...so did a dozen other teams LOL
they passed on duren and dieng...so did a dozen other teams LOL
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