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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:02 pm to saints5021
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:02 pm to saints5021
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Indiana is the last team to figure out that Centers are not what you build your team around anymore.
Top 3 MVP finishers.
Jokic, Embiid, Giannis
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:03 pm to brmark70816
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Top 3 MVP finishers.
Jokic, Embiid, Giannis
Yeah but Ayton ain't in that galaxy
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:04 pm to saints5021
They just traded for Haliburton 
Ayton is severely underrated because he volunteered for a reduced offensive role the past 2 years. Ayton can be a 25/10 guy with all-NBA defense and the occasional 3PT
Ayton is severely underrated because he volunteered for a reduced offensive role the past 2 years. Ayton can be a 25/10 guy with all-NBA defense and the occasional 3PT
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:05 pm to Jar_Jar_80
Phoenix pretty much needs Ayton as salary filler to get Durant. If they’re going to get him, I think you’ll see a move pretty quickly with Ayton to Indiana and Durant to Phoenix
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:06 pm to saints5021
*shrug*
They don’t have much else to work with.
They are in the process of a rebuild. Halliburton as their point and Mathurin as a wing are their main pieces, as everything else is a mix of expirings and shite contracts (Buddy Hield).
There are also claims that the Pacers don’t even have the cap space to fit Ayton into, which means they are likely dumping Myles Turner or others shortly if the Suns don’t match.
They don’t have much else to work with.
They are in the process of a rebuild. Halliburton as their point and Mathurin as a wing are their main pieces, as everything else is a mix of expirings and shite contracts (Buddy Hield).
There are also claims that the Pacers don’t even have the cap space to fit Ayton into, which means they are likely dumping Myles Turner or others shortly if the Suns don’t match.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:10 pm to saints5021
Suns are screwed
@BobbyMarks: Phoenix has until Saturday night at 11:59PM ET. to match the largest offer sheet in NBA history.
The contract is binding and a sign-and-trade cannot be completed.
If Phoenix matches, Ayton has veto power on any trade after Jan. 15. He cannot be traded to Indiana.
@BobbyMarks: Phoenix has until Saturday night at 11:59PM ET. to match the largest offer sheet in NBA history.
The contract is binding and a sign-and-trade cannot be completed.
If Phoenix matches, Ayton has veto power on any trade after Jan. 15. He cannot be traded to Indiana.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:11 pm to Soggymoss
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Phoenix pretty much needs Ayton as salary filler to get Durant. If they’re going to get him, I think you’ll see a move pretty quickly with Ayton to Indiana and Durant to Phoenix
If he signed the offer sheet, i don't think that's possible anymore. All Phx can do is match it and keep him. they can't trade him anymore.
Great move by Indy. Ridiculously overpaid, but now PHX has to decide if they want to overpay him, or lose the #1 overall pick for nothing. We should all be thanking them.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:12 pm to Soggymoss
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Phoenix pretty much needs Ayton as salary filler to get Durant. If they’re going to get him, I think you’ll see a move pretty quickly with Ayton to Indiana and Durant to Phoenix
He signed the offer sheet, if the Suns match he can't be traded anywhere until January and he can't be traded to the Pacers for a full year.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:13 pm to Soggymoss
quote:That ship has sailed.
Phoenix pretty much needs Ayton as salary filler to get Durant.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
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but now PHX has to decide if they want to overpay him, or lose the #1 overall pick for nothing.
A Sarver masterclass. People should really be angling for their picks in 2 or 3 years when CP3 is gone.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:18 pm to shel311
The question now, is "Does Sarver match it to trade Ayton later, or does he just let him walk for nothing?"
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:20 pm to Epic Cajun
Now Woj saying he's just agreed to it but hasn't signed yet so still some s&t possibility.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:21 pm to TeddyPadillac
Makes me wonder if Ayton just wanted to get paid or if he really wants to be in Indy.
If nothing else, I wouldn’t put it past him to do this as a “frick you” to the team for refusing to pay him then dicking around on a potential sign and trade while they flirted with Brooklyn.
If nothing else, I wouldn’t put it past him to do this as a “frick you” to the team for refusing to pay him then dicking around on a potential sign and trade while they flirted with Brooklyn.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:21 pm to saintsfan22
That's what I was wondering, because the initial reports all said "agreed to", and then everyone started going on with "signed offer sheet".
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:22 pm to saintsfan22
Booker in two seasons:
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:22 pm to teke184
He doesn't seem like someone who cares about market or anything like that. Indy has a decent young core with Haliburton and Mathurin, and potentially Ayton.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:22 pm to saints5021
Who plays Jazz to his Will? Crowder?
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:22 pm to TeddyPadillac
All signs suggest Phoenix is not going to overpay Ayton.
Also, I'm not sure Phoenix ever wanted KD at the price he would cost anyway. If they have to give up Bridges, how do you build a defense? He's as critical to their defense as Herb is to ours.
Who was the last championship team that didn't have a top 10 defense? I just went back the past 10 years and couldn't find one bad defense. Most of the time they were top 3. This is why nobody is beating down Brooklyn's door to gut their team and mortgage their future to get KD. He was a big part of a top defense in Golden State, but he's much older now and has dealt with a major leg injury since then.
Also, I'm not sure Phoenix ever wanted KD at the price he would cost anyway. If they have to give up Bridges, how do you build a defense? He's as critical to their defense as Herb is to ours.
Who was the last championship team that didn't have a top 10 defense? I just went back the past 10 years and couldn't find one bad defense. Most of the time they were top 3. This is why nobody is beating down Brooklyn's door to gut their team and mortgage their future to get KD. He was a big part of a top defense in Golden State, but he's much older now and has dealt with a major leg injury since then.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:24 pm to TigerinATL
I hope the Pacers put all type of poison pills in the contract they gave to Ayton.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:26 pm to TigerinATL
Because the clock to match doesn’t start until midnight, both sides still have time work out a sign-and-trade before the offer sheet is officially signed. @BobbyMarks42
So I guess the suns have until midnight to do a sign and trade?
So I guess the suns have until midnight to do a sign and trade?
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 2:27 pm
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