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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:12 am to
What will the major sports media do if Zion signs his extension without any drama and the Knicks sign...Jalen Brunson?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:18 am to
I saw someone tweet this and its kinda true:

Knicks sign Brunson...

LOL KNICKS HAHA

Knicks lose out on Brunson...

LOL KNICKS HAHA
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:19 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30645 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:20 am to
quote:

randon “Scoop B” Robinson
@ScoopB
As free agency approaches, all signs pointing to Zion Williamson signing a Max extension with the New Orleans Pelicans.



Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4655 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:23 am to
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They already did that for a full year. How does sitting John Wall for another year benefit Houston?


I just don't buy it---you want a buyout to go play somewhere? ok, here is 50% of your contract. Not save me 6 million.

and regarding making a fuss for not playing him--that's another ridiculous thing the NBA has going for it. We went months at the end of the season not playing Temple--could he send his agent to make some noise? What about Graham--his minutes got cut as well--maybe he'll make a fuss. You can't force someone to play a player that's out of your rotation. It didn't make sense with AD and it doesn't make sense now. NBA is just digging the hole deeper and deeper.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131425 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:26 am to
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I just don't buy it---you want a buyout to go play somewhere? ok, here is 50% of your contract. Not save me 6 million.


Same. You don't like it fine, sit on the bench another year, frick you.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:28 am to
Buyouts should be a maximum of 50% back to the player.

Not 93%
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:32 am to
shams
quote:

Irving and the Nets discussed a two-year max extension that included incentives based on games played, as well as a four-year max that included two guaranteed years and triggers for years three and four based on the games played in years one and two.

Irving showed a willingness to accept an incentive based deal before countering with a short-term contract extension that protected both sides with a player option. The Nets declined to accept that offer and Irving exercised his opt-in for 22-23 at $36.5 million.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131425 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:35 am to
Damn. The Nets are truly sick of his shite. I am kinda surprised.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112940 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:38 am to
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I saw someone tweet this and its kinda true:

Knicks sign Brunson...

LOL KNICKS HAHA

Knicks lose out on Brunson...

LOL KNICKS HAHA
I think I responded to that tweet
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11473 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Buyouts should be a maximum of 50% back to the player.



That would be awesome. Nobody would ever be bought out again. But I'd be cool with that..
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131425 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:48 am to

quote:

NBATradeReport
@NBATradeReport
· 21h
#Sources — Charlotte Hornets have made Gordon Hayward, Terry Rozier, & Kelly Oubre Jr. available for trade. #NBA


I bet they have
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11473 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:54 am to
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bet they have


They combine for around 63M.

Westbrook, Tucker and Nunn are around 63M.

I think the Lakers would do that deal pretty quick. Hornets clear the deck for next offseason, plus get a potential young piece in Tucker..

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112940 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Irving showed a willingness to accept an incentive based deal before countering with a short-term contract extension that protected both sides with a player option. The Nets declined to accept that offer and Irving exercised his opt-in for 22-23 at $36.5 million.
Those who dare to be different lead us into tomorrow!!!
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37425 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 11:32 am to
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Same. You don't like it fine, sit on the bench another year, frick you.

I mean, they could've done that, but they'd rather have the 6.5 mil back.

It's shitty, but that's a consequence of having guaranteed contracts. I don't think it was Wall holding out, or not wanting to play, I think the team didn't want him taking minutes from other younger players.

The only time that I was really pissed was when the NBA supposedly forced us to play AD. The NBA should not be the one making decisions for a franchise in that situation. At worst, they should've possibly fined the Pels if they held out AD in nationally televised games (I think they've either done that or threatened to do that when teams "rest" healthy players). But, otherwise frick them, they should have no say concerning that. Realistically the Pels should've fined/suspended AD throughout that whole ordeal.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 11:44 am to
A 2 or 3 for 1 deal for Oubre or Rozier might be interesting to make room for Liddell and upgrade the Graham, Temple, Kira, Hayes (contract situation) roster spots.

We might not target Charlotte as a team to trade with, but there seems to be plenty of these mid tier type attainable players that we can target to create roster spots, improve our rotation, and not blow excess draft capital at the same time.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 11:46 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 11:59 am to
quote:

They combine for around 63M.

Westbrook, Tucker and Nunn are around 63M.

I think the Lakers would do that deal pretty quick. Hornets clear the deck for next offseason, plus get a potential young piece in Tucker..
The Lakers would be taking on future salaries for Hayward and Rozier though (about $80 million). I agree the players they would be getting far outweigh Westbrook. However, do the Lakers want any future salaries?
Posted by PelsForLife
Member since May 2019
475 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:03 pm to
Terry and Oubre are solid arse players. Would love to have them off the bench.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:04 pm to
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The Lakers would be taking on future salaries for Hayward and Rozier though (about $80 million). I agree the players they would be getting far outweigh Westbrook. However, do the Lakers want any future salaries?


I think you underestimate their short-sightedness.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104995 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:09 pm to
They can take on future salary or they can send back picks.

No one is taking back Westbrick for nothing.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112940 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Terry and Oubre are solid arse players. Would love to have them off the bench.

Who are you taking out or severely limiting minutes from to get those 2 minutes?

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