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re: SVG Fired per Woj & Andrew Lopez. UPDATED With initial known candidates

Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:30 am to
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
32922 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:30 am to
I’ve said it before…Stan might not have been the right guy, but he was a scapegoat for a shitty roster. Griff hasn’t had many good decisions other than Zion and the AD trade, both were no brainers or he was basically forced. Everything after that has been a disaster.


If he hires Lee or someone other than Weatherspoon and it doesn’t work he is fricking gone. Which is why I think he will hire Weatherspoon. He will be praised for thinking outside the box and when it doesn’t work he will be given the benefit of the doubt. The Pels don’t want to be seen as the organization that fired both the first woman HC and the GM that hired her. It would buy him more time.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:31 am to
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I think Griff knows exactly who he wants. This is probably his last coaching hire so I assume he wouldn’t make the choice with a gamble.

Nothing in Griff’s career to this point makes me believe this.

And since many of those coach candidates are still coaching, unless it’s Kidd, he’s gonna need to wait to get confirmations. And if it is Kidd… might as well start planning for Zion’s blockbuster trade and who the next Gm is because I have zero faith in Mr. Wifebeater
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:31 am to
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Also Kidd being in the mix again tells me Griff still doesn’t have a good grasp of hiring coaches


To be fair, Kidd is mentioned for basically every single opening. All that should tell you is his agent has a close relationship with Woj, Shams, etc. and gets his name out there no matter what.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38282 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:32 am to
Got to sleep in today. Woke up to this. Wow.

Honestly thought there was zero chance of this happening, even after it came out the players were frustrated.
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
3174 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:33 am to
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I’ve said it before…Stan might not have been the right guy, but he was a scapegoat for a shitty roster

Do you think our roster is less talented than the Grizzlies? The Knicks? The Spurs?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123713 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:34 am to
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If he hires Lee or someone other than Weatherspoon and it doesn’t work he is fricking gone. Which is why I think he will hire Weatherspoon. He will be praised for thinking outside the box and when it doesn’t work he will be given the benefit of the doubt. The Pels don’t want to be seen as the organization that fired both the first woman HC and the GM that hired her. It would buy him more time.


I think there is a LOT of truth to this.

I think Griffin looooooooooooves media fawning and this will buy the Pelicans so much fricking good will.

A black female HC? Griffin is about to get a 4 month long blowjob from the media.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
11990 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:35 am to
I fear thay this FO think this roster underperformed and is willing to run it back with pretty much the same roster with a new coach.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24517 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:35 am to
Scott Brooks just became available...
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
1452 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
Scott Brooks out in D.C. too…..everybody getting the axe!
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117104 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
Pels Talk may as well be a Q board

“Trust Griff’s plan”
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19949 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
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Van Gundy had been one of Bledsoe’s most strident defenders during a highly disappointing season from the 11-year veteran.


Wow. This is from Christian Clark's story at Nola.com.

I always thought that that Griffin was forcing SVG to keep playing Bledsoe after it was obvious that NAW was better. Nope. SVG just loved Bledsoe.

I had been mildly defending SVG here on this board, but this piece of information is absolutely why this move was necessary. Unreal that Bledsoe the Tank Commander had that role because SVG wanted him in it.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172075 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
Griffin is such a fraud. I have very little faith in this next hire. He did right by the firing (although i wonder how much it was pressed from above through zion channels)
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10063 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
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Wonder which recycled NBA coach they will go after next.


The recycled coach will be an assistant. Apparently people on here dont want to hear it, but I'm pretty confident T-Spoon gets Zion's endorsement, she's familiar with the players, and the contract will be cheap for a novice HC.
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
3174 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
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I fear thay this FO think this roster underperformed and is willing to run it back with pretty much the same roster with a new coach.

The current roster is not well constructed whatsoever, but I 100% believe we at least make the play in if we have even an average coach. Thats why I dont thinkk SVG is the “scapegoat”. He made an average team worse than they should have been
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:36 am to
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To be fair, Kidd is mentioned for basically every single opening. All that should tell you is his agent has a close relationship with Woj, Shams, etc. and gets his name out there no matter what.


I don’t buy that because there have been plenty of openings Kidd’s name wasn’t thrown around and recently when it was, it was legit and he had to address it(Portland).

Griff also really wanted Lue, and is on his third coach in three seasons, that alone disqualifies him from getting the benefit of the doubt. He’s basically one more bad personal move away from our version of late career Dumars. Just cycling through coaches to shift blame for shitty roster construction.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
144061 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:37 am to
I admit I was really out of the loop when it comes to Pelicans stuff... esp. this past season as my work kept me VERY busy during the basketball season

what went so wrong that we got rid of SVG after just 1 season?

outside of missing the playoffs with 2 all-world talents obviously
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:37 am to
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Do you think our roster is less talented than the Grizzlies? The Knicks? The Spurs?


Less talented is the wrong question. Team building is chemistry, not algebra. Your best creator is a power forward. Your best defender can't beat a pick and roll. Your best spacer is one of your more inconsistent shooters. I think they can make some marginal roster changes talent wise and get much better results with better fit and guys that plug some glaring holes.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
32922 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:37 am to
If he’s going to go that route i would much rather him make Spoon lead assistant and just hire Becky Hammon.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123713 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:37 am to
Pels official twitter just liked someone's comment on a puff piece about Weatherspoon...
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:39 am to
Pels twitter has been putting out puff piece videos on Weatherspoon all season. I don't know if there was any organizational direction behind that, or if it was just the social media team taking advantage of a charismatic person low enough on the food chain to talk to them.
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