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re: Solmon Hill to Pels 4yr/50 potential 2 mill for good behavior on line
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:11 pm to 504ByrdGang
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:11 pm to 504ByrdGang
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Dante has been given a bigger role and isn't able to step up. He has no one better in front him and is maced out as a player.
Why do you think he is maxed out? He is just starting to shoot 3's and he is at 31%, I don't think its crazy to think he could shoot above 35% from 3.
I didn't even realize this until I looked it up. Cunningham's season totals for 3PA:
2
4
9
2
6
5
10
174
I think he is really solid for what we are paying him and for what his role should be (assuming we aren't decimated by injuries again)
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:12 pm to teke184
We needed a big athletic 3 who can play defense and small ball 4. We got a 25 yr old one who can be much more if he can get his shot more consistent. He's 80%+ from the stripe and was solid from the corner when he was a starter (37% with 48% from left corner), so it's not like he's totally broken.
It's a gamble, but at least there is upside. Guys is athletic, versatile, high energy, and shoots 80+% FT.
It's a gamble, but at least there is upside. Guys is athletic, versatile, high energy, and shoots 80+% FT.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:15 pm to GynoSandberg
Seriously?? Points dont matter?? We shouldve just given Alonzo Gee half of that and called it an offseason
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:15 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Lets put this in perspective... the Pacers didn't pick up their club option for him at $2.3m, but the pels want to pay him $13m/yr. brilliant.
That tells me nothing
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:18 pm to NOFOX
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It's a gamble, but at least there is upside. Guys is athletic, versatile, high energy, and shoots 80+% FT.
This.
It's a gamble, and not nearly as risky as what almost ever other gamble that's been reported today.
People bitching about Dell/ownership fricking our shite up with win now moves. We pull a development move, maybe overpay a little bit, and now people are still bitching.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:20 pm to SuperSoakher
See Thrills post on when he actually got minutes. I understand that it's hard to be rational, he's not a big name or a sexy FA get. I'm not excited about it, but I'm not angry. I think he is the type of player we have to take a chance with.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:20 pm to CocoLoco
Gonna be watching this Vladimiros Giankovits kid closely in the summer league.
May be the only 3-Pt shooting SF on our radar.
May be the only 3-Pt shooting SF on our radar.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:20 pm to NOFOX
The key here is his percentages from the FT line. I think he will surprise a lot of people with consistent minutes and some confidence.
As long as he can continue to hit open jumpshot, he'll be fine. Just enough for teams to respect him. I think he can do that.
As long as he can continue to hit open jumpshot, he'll be fine. Just enough for teams to respect him. I think he can do that.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:21 pm to SuperSoakher
Yeah buddy
Ppg matters when you're playing 14 mpg behind Paul George
He averaged 13 ppg and 7 rpg when playing over 30 minutes (32 mpg). 2 3PM, shot 56% from the field. At least use some context
Ppg matters when you're playing 14 mpg behind Paul George
He averaged 13 ppg and 7 rpg when playing over 30 minutes (32 mpg). 2 3PM, shot 56% from the field. At least use some context
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:21 pm to supe12sta12z
Hey they fixed tyrekes awful jumper
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:22 pm to BallHawk
I am strictly a realist who takes the facts at hand and tries to project the most likely outcome. I have no skin in the game. I win nothing if I am "right."
Solomon Hill's past says that the most likely outcome is that he will be a below average player. I couldn't imagine an argument that says otherwise that is supported by facts.
Now, could he all of a sudden catapult onto becoming an average to above average player? Sure, anything is possible. But as a realist, I deal with only the most likely outcome. And him being a below average player is clearly the most likely outcome
Solomon Hill's past says that the most likely outcome is that he will be a below average player. I couldn't imagine an argument that says otherwise that is supported by facts.
Now, could he all of a sudden catapult onto becoming an average to above average player? Sure, anything is possible. But as a realist, I deal with only the most likely outcome. And him being a below average player is clearly the most likely outcome
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:24 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Lets put this in perspective... the Pacers didn't pick up their club option for him at $2.3m, but the pels want to pay him $13m/yr. brilliant.
Are you familiar with the pacers roster?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:24 pm to GynoSandberg
Everybody keeps comparing this contract to the old cap and it's really fricking aggravating.
A 2015 contract makes no sense compared to a 2016 contract. It never will. Guys are getting paid 50 to 60 percent more than what they would under the old agreement.
Hill is good with a small chance to be great. Young athletic guy that can play d.
I swear half the posters on this board today don't follow basketball close enough to know how good of a deal this can turn out to be.
A 2015 contract makes no sense compared to a 2016 contract. It never will. Guys are getting paid 50 to 60 percent more than what they would under the old agreement.
Hill is good with a small chance to be great. Young athletic guy that can play d.
I swear half the posters on this board today don't follow basketball close enough to know how good of a deal this can turn out to be.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:24 pm to Crewz
Is he better than the below average SF's we have on the roster?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:24 pm to CocoLoco
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That tells me nothing
one team saying a guy isn't worth 2.3 mil, but another team saying he is worth 465% higher tells you nothing?
It tells me Dell is still a fricking dummy
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:25 pm to BallHawk
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This also means we have more cap room to go out and get more pieces plus that S&T idea MM mentioned in the other thread could still be a possibility.
What was the idea and which thread was it in?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:25 pm to GynoSandberg
Stats from last years summer league. Against summer league scrubs.
So agree to disagree.
Also here's some Pacers fans reactions who have watched him play.
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24 year old dude with 2 years experience - 4 pts, 3 rebs per game in 27 min per, shooting 18% FGs
So agree to disagree.
Also here's some Pacers fans reactions who have watched him play.
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Solomon Hill was overrated because of a short run in the playoffs, he was very bad in the regular season, very ineffecient. Bad deal, IMO.
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He usually can't shoot though. He had a freakish series and it does not reflect how he plays. He's a good defender though. I'll give him that.
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And he lead our team in minutes during the PG injury and didn't develop into a worthwhile consistent player
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:26 pm to patendedgmf
I'm pretty interested in the center you mentioned we were looking at, Ioannis Bourousis. He's a bit old at 33, but he had his best season last year. 14.5/8.7 in 25 minutes while shooting 38% from 3. LINK
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:27 pm to Mr.Perfect
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the Pacers didn't pick up their club option for him at $2.3m, but the pels want to pay him $13m/yr. brilliant.
The Pacers have been shite on constantly for that move
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:28 pm to whatiknowsofar
Hill is a good player who has a chance to be great. Wow.
If Hill "is" a good player, I am guessing you would call 250-300 players great.
Again, if the Pacers miss the playoffs last year and Hill gets no exposure, he gets between 2-5 million this summer and 2 years max. No doubt in my mind. He was no better than Ennis or Gee, outside of one series. Show me, with facts, anything to the contrary
If Hill "is" a good player, I am guessing you would call 250-300 players great.
Again, if the Pacers miss the playoffs last year and Hill gets no exposure, he gets between 2-5 million this summer and 2 years max. No doubt in my mind. He was no better than Ennis or Gee, outside of one series. Show me, with facts, anything to the contrary
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